NY firefighter who liked bush ad.

[Shad0hawK]

"I'm on vacation. I was home yesterday listening to the radio and start to hear the attacks. I saw the ads. I think they're inspirational. They remind me of going back, like how lost I felt right after 9/11 and then seeing on the news when George Bush went down to the Trade Center, put his arm around the firemen, the words he spoke of... I don't know if "defiance" is the right word, but they were inspirational. They made me feel like, "Wow, this isn't just going to be another terrorist attack that we're going to sit back on our asses -- excuse me -- and do nothing," and for these people to attack these ads, it's nothing less than slimy. There's a lot of things I disagree with with the families, the victims, of the way things have to be done, that the World Trade Center has to remain like an empty pit. I don't agree with that. I think we should build them bigger, the same way, because by not building them back I believe they've won. Our enemies have won. And if we build something defiant, then we're telling them, "All right, let's see you knock these ones down."

 

[Tab]

I personally think Bush did a job with 9/11. He could've press the button on Afganistan, alot of restraint shown. The only reason the FireFighters are pissed is because of cut funding. Well, if I you look into you'll find out that New York FireFighters have had a large drug problem. Several captians were cought with Crack and I think alot of firefighters took up smoking after 9/11.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Tabb
I personally think Bush did a job with 9/11. He could've press the button on Afganistan, alot of restraint shown. The only reason the FireFighters are pissed is because of cut funding. Well, if I you look into you'll find out that New York FireFighters have had a large drug problem. Several captians were cought with Crack and I think alot of firefighters took up smoking after 9/11.

Good input...

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
"I'm on vacation. I was home yesterday listening to the radio and start to hear the attacks. I saw the ads. I think they're inspirational. They remind me of going back, like how lost I felt right after 9/11 and then seeing on the news when George Bush went down to the Trade Center, put his arm around the firemen, the words he spoke of... I don't know if "defiance" is the right word, but they were inspirational. They made me feel like, "Wow, this isn't just going to be another terrorist attack that we're going to sit back on our asses -- excuse me -- and do nothing," and for these people to attack these ads, it's nothing less than slimy. There's a lot of things I disagree with with the families, the victims, of the way things have to be done, that the World Trade Center has to remain like an empty pit. I don't agree with that. I think we should build them bigger, the same way, because by not building them back I believe they've won. Our enemies have won. And if we build something defiant, then we're telling them, "All right, let's see you knock these ones down."

-Mike Moran

CkG

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Tabb
I personally think Bush did a job with 9/11. He could've press the button on Afganistan, alot of restraint shown. The only reason the FireFighters are pissed is because of cut funding. Well, if I you look into you'll find out that New York FireFighters have had a large drug problem. Several captians were cought with Crack and I think alot of firefighters took up smoking after 9/11.

i personally liked his(mike moran i think it was) idea of rebuilding the towers just like they were but taller, naming them "mecca" and "medina" and telling the radicals as long as they stand so will the cities they are named after...

 

[CADsortaGUY]

"Open Letter to America"

CkG

 

[Shad0hawK]

yeah i saw that, CNN and all the other liberalist propaganda outlets are not talking about it though...i wonder why?

 

[Dari]

I work for Time Warner, the parent company of CNN. I just wanted to let you guys know that it was John Kerry's campaign headquarter that alerted us to the ads and its "controversal" 9/11 twist. I wouldn't doubt that the families were alerted by Kerry's campaign as well and they cherry-picked their quotes. The kin of 9/11 victims I know, and me included, thought the ads were tastefully done. Furthermore, they were more patriotic than political. As sad as it was, seeing the firefighters and the American flag will lift any American spirit, except for those on the fringes of liberalism.

I personally think Bush did a job with 9/11. He could've press the button on Afganistan, alot of restraint shown. The only reason the FireFighters are pissed is because of cut funding. Well, if I you look into you'll find out that New York FireFighters have had a large drug problem. Several captians were cought with Crack and I think alot of firefighters took up smoking after 9/11.

Pure BS. Did you make this lie up or did you steal it from a liberal site?

 

[XMan]

Isn't Mike Moran the guy who told Bin Laden to kiss his ass, then said where he lived?

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: X-Man
Isn't Mike Moran the guy who told Bin Laden to kiss his ass, then said where he lived?

yeah, lost his brother and lots of firefighters he knew and served with.

here is a recording.




linky

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
yeah i saw that, CNN and all the other liberalist propaganda outlets are not talking about it though...i wonder why?

Uhh. Cuz its late on a Saturday night?

I noticed that you really love to hate CNN; what, praytell are these other "liberalist propaganda outlets" you decry? I'm intrigued.

 

[Shad0hawK]

moran also mentioned somehting, the dems like to say "where is the leadership"?

bush got into the middle of it with the firefighters, mostly off camera and talked to them one human being to another, he took a bunch of grim, saddened, men and lifted their spirits and helped them carry on.

i guess the average dem does not know leadership when they see it.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
yeah i saw that, CNN and all the other liberalist propaganda outlets are not talking about it though...i wonder why?

Uhh. Cuz its late on a Saturday night?

I noticed that you really love to hate CNN; what, praytell are these other "liberalist propaganda outlets" you decry? I'm intrigued.

well they sure found time to spend with 2 women who were soooooo offended, they said the exact same things. of course kerry using the blood of the dead of vietnam to promote himself is perfectly acceptable though... the other outlets? look in your favorites folder

will we see msnbc, cnn, and the other networks publicize how these 22 families feel as opposed to the 2? probobly not.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
yeah i saw that, CNN and all the other liberalist propaganda outlets are not talking about it though...i wonder why?

Uhh. Cuz its late on a Saturday night?

I noticed that you really love to hate CNN; what, praytell are these other "liberalist propaganda outlets" you decry? I'm intrigued.

well they sure found time to spend with 2 women who were soooooo offended, they said the exact same things. of course kerry using the blood of the dead of vietnam to promote himself is perfectly acceptable though... the other outlets? look in your favorites folder

will we see msnbc, cnn, and the other networks publicize how these 22 families feel as opposed to the 2? probobly not.

Yeah, but the timestamp on that AP article was 10:51 pm Eastern. Do you honestly think its fair of you to criticize CNN for not reporting that within a few hours on a Saturday night? The 24-hour news cycle has made us all too impatient. We'll see what happens on the Sunday talk shows tomorrow morning.

My point was, you bashing CNN for spouting their "liberalist propaganda" is just as ridiculous as people bashing Faux News for their "reactionary conservative propaganda". Faux News has its set audience, and CNN has its. Cable news has changed (degenerated if you want) into a ratings war. Plain and simple. No one outlet has as much power as some people would like to think.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
moran also mentioned somehting, the dems like to say "where is the leadership"?

bush got into the middle of it with the firefighters, mostly off camera and talked to them one human being to another, he took a bunch of grim, saddened, men and lifted their spirits and helped them carry on.

i guess the average dem does not know leadership when they see it.

I agree, that was a shining moment of his Presidency. He should have used those images in his commercial.

Of course, I still think Kerry will and others would have made a much better President than Bush.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
moran also mentioned somehting, the dems like to say "where is the leadership"?

bush got into the middle of it with the firefighters, mostly off camera and talked to them one human being to another, he took a bunch of grim, saddened, men and lifted their spirits and helped them carry on.

i guess the average dem does not know leadership when they see it.

Hehe, remember when all the people around here were saying that they wanted Gore to win but after 9/11 they were happy it was Bush.

Fickle as little schoolgirls .

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Tabb
I personally think Bush did a job with 9/11. He could've press the button on Afganistan, alot of restraint shown. The only reason the FireFighters are pissed is because of cut funding. Well, if I you look into you'll find out that New York FireFighters have had a large drug problem. Several captians were cought with Crack and I think alot of firefighters took up smoking after 9/11.

i personally liked his(mike moran i think it was) idea of rebuilding the towers just like they were but taller, naming them "mecca" and "medina" and telling the radicals as long as they stand so will the cities they are named after...

While naming them Mecca and Medina may stop them from being targets again it is because the extremists of that part of the world will feel they have wn the ultimate victory in laying claim to this part of the world.

By naming the new tower "Liberty" and making it 1776 feet is the ultimate statement to them that they have not won.

There is more to this definace but I will not talk about it until the buildings are built.

 

[Gravity]

I'm glad to see this story finding some balance. The first few days I heard of the liberal attacks on the president's ads I was concerned.