Nvidia to license Kepler to everyone who can pay

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They'd never do that though. It'd be an extremely low volume business with lower margins than making their own.

Anyway, it isn't total loss for Nvidia for Surface. The next Surface RT is supposed to have two variants at least, one with Qualcomm, and another with Nvidia.

I think the real implication for this is how it might affect the igpus in future intel cpus moving forward.

 

[NTMBK]

I think the real implication for this is how it might affect the igpus in future intel cpus moving forward.

Very doubtful. Intel is already moving their HD graphics down into Atom, with Silvermont- they don't need mobile graphics tech licensed from anyone any more. Intel has had the most consistent improvement in graphics tech over the last ~5 years out of any of the major PC players, and they're not slowing down.

 

[SiliconWars]

Very doubtful. Intel is already moving their HD graphics down into Atom, with Silvermont- they don't need mobile graphics tech licensed from anyone any more. Intel has had the most consistent improvement in graphics tech over the last ~5 years out of any of the major PC players, and they're not slowing down.

They are still garbage compared to the guys at the top though. To be frank, Intel *should* be licensing Kepler but they are too proud and stubborn to do so.

 

[NTMBK]

They are still garbage compared to the guys at the top though.

No they're not. Haswell GT3e is pretty damn snappy, and in a fairly tight TDP compared to a dGPU. Plus it's a damn big improvement on HD4000, which was a big improvement on HD3000. And Broadwell will no doubt see another big improvement on Haswell.

 

[SiliconWars]

No they're not. Haswell GT3e is pretty damn snappy, and in a fairly tight TDP compared to a dGPU. Plus it's a damn big improvement on HD4000, which was a big improvement on HD3000. And Broadwell will no doubt see another big improvement on Haswell.

We're talking about tablet and phone level performance aren't we? Atom's HD graphics will struggle to be even half as fast as the Adreno 330 in the S800 and Tegra 4's graphics.

 

[Keysplayr]

That the stated link does nothing to disprove what's been discussed??? Which is the profitability of the Tegra division. That probably didn't need explaining.
Anyways ARM will most likely be the ones to incorporate these GPU's since they are the farthest behind are they not?

Didn't you get an overall "vibe" from the article regarding Tegra?

 

[Genx87]

The Tegra division has been posting overly negative results since its inception. Even at its revenue peak it was still posting crazy negative balances.

Gee you dont say? What part of funding the project until it provides fruits of their labor didnt you understand? Anyways when creating a new product there is an expected timeline that it wont provide profits for a defined time. Only Nvidia knows what that timeline looks like.

But the important thing to understand is the losses are expected when ramping up a new product line in a competitive emerging market. Microsoft still hasnt turned a profit on the xBox line after a decade. But so what? They are churning out another console and trudging ahead.

 

[Genx87]

Nvidia lost all of the high volume Tegra 3 design wins. The Nexus 7 or the MS Surface for example. So please tell me how Nvidia will make up for that with a handful of irrelevant design wins.

Oh an 18 month old design is being displaced by newer designs? That is simply unbelievable

 

[Dribble]

If they score samsung or apple licensing their gpu tech then it's a win for nvidia. No guarantee's it'll happen but no guarantee's it won't either. Got to remember the likes of apple are probably going for custom ARM soc across the board - eventually removing intel and using their own ARM based cpu's on everything. If nvidia offer a design that scales from phones to macbooks backed by strong driver support they might just score a win there.

 

[sontin]

Kepler is doing this. Kepler.M has the same featureset like the normal Kepler versions.

 

[NTMBK]

Didn't you get an overall "vibe" from the article regarding Tegra?

I got the "vibe" that the author was drinking the Tegra Kool-Aid, without actually looking at the numbers.