nVidia teasing us with GTX480 maybe a GTX500 in works!

[tweakboy]

I bet in imo in a month or two from now a new nvidia GTX card will be announced.


This cant be it as 480 loses to ATI in performance and what not..

thx

 

[Lonyo]

Of course a GTX5xx is in the works. That's how the cycle goes.
They won't announce it though, and maybe they will manage to fill out a while range of DX11 parts before the top end refresh or replacement gets made.

The GTX6xx is probably already in the works too.

 

[SlickR12345]

They will first do a refresh of this line, before a new generation, though I'd expect to see a mid line graphic cards first ~~ GTX 260, 250 and 240, in June or July and only after a refresh for a GTX485 and 475.

 

[Kenmitch]

I bet in imo in a month or two from now a new nvidia GTX card will be announced.


This cant be it as 480 loses to ATI in performance and what not..

thx

In my opinion nvidia pushed the fermi to it's current limits to get the slight edge it did. I think ATI caught them off guard with the 5xxx series.

The real question is will ATI sit and wait or will they stomp on nvidia's head. With some tweaking and refinement to the silicone I'm pretty sure ATI can get alot more out of the 5xxx series. Kinda makes you wander what is sitting in the lab currently and what is in pre-production pipelines. I guess the same arguement could be made for nvidia also in all fairness.

This situation is very similar to the days when AMD was the king and Intel kick'd them to the curb. Intel has not looked back since.

I could care less who's on top as I'll buy what seems like the most logical choice to me based on my needs and wants....But competion drives the industry and is best for all of us. The red vs blue team thing is kinda cool to watch I have to admit. Seems like alot are caught up in the fight and I guess somewhat feel obligated to defend their favorite team no matter what happens.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I have a feeling that, given the financial straits AMD has found itself in (Oy 2900 & Barcelona all in the same year!) they have taken a very conservative release model that doesn't clock them against Nvidia so much as it clocks them against major buying seasons and the like.

You want to have something ready for Black Friday, you want to have something ready for Christmas you want to have something ready for tax season. Stuff like that.

Having seen Fermi's performance advantage and at what cost, I don't think ATI would have to do much more than their OC'ed 2gb 5870 to stay competitive.

Gawd I could go for some 5850 level performance for 5770 prices...

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Just as a guess, I'd say august for a refresh part. That should give nVidia time to work out another spin and dash in some secret sauce on the mem controller. 512+sp high end part with clocks back in line and power consumption back in the real world (<200). Essentially, everything this card was supposed to be. Lets be a little more realistic though, this card isn't another FX5800, it's more an x1800 (or maybe HD2900). One refresh away from being compelling. However, we KNOW ATI will have something in the works for this time period as well. Time will tell.

 

[SHAQ]

They may be doing a B0 respin on all the parts. That would lower heat and power consumption and may increase the yields on the 512 core version.

 

[T2k]

This is my bet since early December: since this GTX480 is obviously broken as it is (expensive to make, expensive to sell and still no way of making the enormous R&D cost back in its shortened lifetime) they need to roll out a profitable update, almost a' la 128-bit DustBuster->256-bit FX5900... not exactly the same story, obviously but very close.

...preorder it if you want because I bet there won't be too many shipped in the next 4-5 months.

 

[OCGuy]

I bet in imo in a month or two from now a new nvidia GTX card will be announced.


This cant be it as 480 loses to ATI in performance and what not..

thx

Huh? I dont think 480 was supposed to overtake 5970. It does beat out 5870 though.

 

[biostud]

maybe a GTX490 with all sp activated

 

[Blue Shift]

maybe a GTX490 with all sp activated

This. As TSMC's yields go up, we should eventually see a 512-SP GTX 485 part become available, methinks. Or just a 480 "512 edition," with potential optimizations leading to a 485 down the road.

 

[SolMiester]

I bet in imo in a month or two from now a new nvidia GTX card will be announced.


This cant be it as 480 loses to ATI in performance and what not..

thx

???

 

[T2k]

???

Probably he meant that it loses in certain games, which is true.

 

[Will Robinson]

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[Will Robinson]

Its unlikely NV can fix the power usage of Fermi with "a quick refresh".
It will almost certainly take an architecture change.
I imagine the Catalyst 10.3 drivers ATi pulled out of the magic box also caught NV by surprise.

 

[Hyperlite]

Its unlikely NV can fix the power usage of Fermi with "a quick refresh".
It will almost certainly take an architecture change.
I imagine the Catalyst 10.3 drivers ATi pulled out of the magic box also caught NV by surprise.

you'd be surprised...

 

[tweakboy]

It's very simple, they want to compete with 5980 and 5990

this means a new card soon, guessing GTX 500 ... also what about dual GPU, I think that will be the one that finally competes with the 5980 ... thx

 

[Apocalypse23]

I really really doubt there will be any new GTX 500 and above series this year. Maybe in 2011, Nvidia's plans for presenting a dual GPU GTX495 have also been scrapped as per Fudzilla....

The entire chip is a failure in terms of heat output, power consumption and noise...Nvidia has to get back to the drawing board, and whatever new project they take on, being already 6 months late, you can expect damn well it will take up to a year from now till we see a more refined chip...

So no GTX500 in the works I believe, and if so, it's not until next year, when ATi releases their refresh.

 

[Apocalypse23]

It's very simple, they want to compete with 5980 and 5990

this means a new card soon, guessing GTX 500 ... also what about dual GPU, I think that will be the one that finally competes with the 5980 ... thx

No one knows if Ati has plans to release those cards at all, chances are hell no with the current 5970 and 5870 performances. Ati already released their 5990 and 5890 versions 6 months ago, they are named 5970 and 5870.

 

[DominionSeraph]

I think ATI caught them off guard with the 5xxx series.

Fermi is Nvidia's first foray into specifically building supercomputers. It's thus more than just a competitor to the 5000 series, which had predictable graphics performance.

Nvidia widened its market focus, so you should widen your perspective.

 

[akugami]

Of course a GTX5xx is in the works. That's how the cycle goes.
They won't announce it though, and maybe they will manage to fill out a while range of DX11 parts before the top end refresh or replacement gets made.

The GTX6xx is probably already in the works too.

The GTX 5xx is just a rebadged 8800.

But in all seriousness, new cards are always in the works. While the next step for nVidia is obviously a full top to bottom release of Fermi based cards and fixing the GTX 480 so it'll be a "full fledged" card. It should also be obvious that nVidia already has a direction they want to go with their next new GPU architecture just like ATI should have their next new GPU architecture planned.

 

[at80eighty]

yeah at this rate if they make a dualGPU off of the 480 that thing will be on the no-sell list to places like Iran & North Korea

 

[dguy6789]

???

What's confusing about that statement? 5970 woops the 480.

 

[badb0y]

What's confusing about that statement? 5970 woops the 480.

Nah man that's not fair, it's 2 v 1 GPUs You gotta compare it with GTX480 SLI!

 

[Hauk]

I wonder if nV did a paper launch to gauge public interest. They had to launch eventually, and had to anticipate the general response to power/heat/noise factors. Rough data, but look at the shitstorm across the web. Think they may be taking it into consideration and adjusting production accordingly?

Launch occured after NYSE close on Friday. I may be thinking too much into it, but curious if we'll see movement tomorrow..