Nvidia Streaming Service gimping performance on GeForce Cards

[alcoholbob]

Both wccftech and fudzilla have reported turning off Nvidia streaming service will increase performance from 3-5%. I assume this is because most users are at 1080p. I actually found an average of about 8% improvement at 4k (pretty substantial if you are getting 40-41 fps before and now getting around 44-45).

Worth a shot of anyone wants a small performance boost. Also might mean many recent benchmarks showing 290X beating 780ti may no longer be valid, lmao.

 

[lavaheadache]

link?

 

[Hitman928]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterra...ia_usersraise_your_fps_and_save_cpu_usage_by/

Not sure if it's legit or not, commenters seem to report very mixed results. At the very least it doesn't seem to be a universal issue.

 

[Hitman928]

From one of the commenters :

This won't do anything.
As you can see in your second and third images, this service isn't actually running. I assume it only kicks in when you start using Shield streaming stuff. Disabling a service that isn't even on and finding performance increasing is simply a placebo effect.

 

[alcoholbob]

Wasn't placebo for me since I have a couple of static spots I've tested on dragon age inquisition and witcher 2 that I get the same framerate all the time--one static scene in DAI where always get 40-41 fps and one in Witcher 2 facing the trebuchets where I always get 54fps. I now get 44-45 and 56-57 in those scenes respectively so I know it's not a mistake. It's almost impossible to be getting a random perf boost due to sampling error when you are driving 4k resolution at max settings in a static background scene.

 

[Annisman*]

Where is the streaming service located ?

 

[Gunbuster]

Not sure 8% is what one would describe as "Gimping"

Disable the service and get (in your case 8%) extra performance.

 

[Erenhardt]

Sorry but no...
http://www.cowcotland.com/news/47516/cowcotland-apport-desactivation-nvidia-streaming-gtx-980.html

 

[tviceman]

Note: I don't think this service is installed if GFE is not installed. I do not use GFE, therefore do not install it and I do not see this service anywhere in my task manager or control panel / admin tools / services section.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Where is the streaming service located ?

It is located where all services are located, in the services.msc snap in.

If it does not run, it cannot take up CPU cycles, if it does not take up CPU cycles it cannot affect performance.

Question to the OP, when you tested these static locations did you run the game with the service enabled, disable the service and run the game again? What happens if you do it in the opposite order and run it for 3 times as long? Can you post screenshots of your test and FPS?

 

[ShintaiDK]

So 3-5% is now down to 1-2%. Not exactly something to worry about. It may be more CPU related than GPU.

 

[alcoholbob]

I'll Take screenshots when I get home and see if I'm just hallucinating or if the gains are real.

 

[Cloudfire777]

So 3-5% is now down to 1-2%. Not exactly something to worry about. It may be more CPU related than GPU.

Yep, what CPU you have may play a role here. Plus if the game is very CPU dependant or not

 

[Riceninja]

dont install geforce experience. its as useless as raptr/gaming evolved

 

[alcoholbob]

Thought it was bigger yesterday, maybe my memory is fuzzy. But it looks like it's under 5%. I got 2 fps more at 4K toggling it on/off so basically about 4% performance difference (42 vs 44 fps). But it every fps matters when you are struggling with framerate (and waiting for a Titan X AIO in the mail...) 😛

Image quality is crap because imgur can't handle 4K images. Had to resize.

ON

OFF

 

[casiofx]

Thought it was bigger yesterday, maybe my memory is fuzzy. But it looks like it's under 5%. I got 2 fps more at 4K toggling it on/off so basically about 4% performance difference (42 vs 44 fps). But it every fps matters when you are struggling with framerate (and waiting for a Titan X AIO in the mail...) 😛

Image quality is crap because imgur can't handle 4K images. Had to resize.

ON

OFF

It would be very pronounced for people running SLI or Tri-SLI Titan Xs where they face CPU bottlenecks even on 5960X 😱

This is actually not a bad news, I myself would be happy if it happened to AMD radeons, it means I could tap some extra fps out of my card...

 

[alcoholbob]

It would be very pronounced for people running SLI or Tri-SLI Titan Xs where they face CPU bottlenecks even on 5960X 😱

This is actually not a bad news, I myself would be happy if it happened to AMD radeons, it means I could tap some extra fps out of my card...

Although let's be clear I'm not claiming my average framerate went up (since I doubt there's a reliable way to test that with such small variance), all I'm claiming is static scenes where the framerate is really low, there's a slight improvement. Since that's all I tested, that's all I can claim.

 

[Rvenger]

I'd like to see the frame times. Bet they are better.

 

[RussianSensation]

Both wccftech and fudzilla have reported turning off Nvidia streaming service will increase performance from 3-5%.

Nice! Free performance with a basic software tweak is winning!

Worth a shot of anyone wants a small performance boost. Also might mean many recent benchmarks showing 290X beating 780ti may no longer be valid, lmao.

R9 290X and 780Ti are so close, an extra 3-5% in favour of 780Ti would do nothing to playability. In fact, at 4K 290X CF beats 780Ti SLI by 16%. So really nothing is going to redeem the 780Ti's reputation as an overpriced $700 card that lost 50% of its value in 12 months other than a wave of GW games where 290X tanks.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Can confirm, it helped a tad, 4-5 extra FPS in three games I've tested. Shame how I didn't realize this till now.

 

[Azix]

There's a similar service in raptr isnt there? And wonder if fraps affects it too. I don't play at those massive resolutions though so meh.

 

[Grooveriding]

dont install geforce experience. its as useless as raptr/gaming evolved

This here. GeForce experience is junk. Unless you must have shadowplay recordings, then keep it, otherwise untick it on every driver install along with the 3d audio and 3dvision drivers.

 

[imaheadcase]

I would hardly call it junk since it gives you more optimized options than most games will offer in settings. Better than fiddling with control panel like old days. It has zero overhead to run.

Anyway, the service is simply not started, it can't effect anything. Its merely placebo effect.

 

[Grooveriding]

The automatic optimization of game settings is the worst thing about it. It's pointless to install because you wind up disabling everything it does except for shadowplay (the only thing I consider useful) or the LED controls if you like to play with the light on your card if it has one.