Nvidia ,Rtx2080ti,2080,(2070 review is now live!) information thread. Reviews and prices

[nurturedhate]

1920 Touring cores with fast memory should put in above the Vega 56 but slower than the gtx 1070ti on this chart. I'm guessing $350, thats not too bad.

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With you on the performance but I'd be shocked to see Nvidia sell a 445mm2 die for $350. $450 sounds more plausible than $350. Still going w/ $400 continuing the recent tradition of decently worse price/$ for new Nvidia releases.

 

[happy medium]

With you on the performance but I'd be shocked to see Nvidia sell a 445mm2 die for $350. $450 sounds more plausible than $350. Still going w/ $400 continuing the recent tradition of decently worse price/$ for new Nvidia releases.

$400 will not happen, 2070 is $499, the xx60 series is usually about $150 cheaper than the xx70.
$499 rtx 2070 with free BF 5 game.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...cb&gclid=CNiI-OWalt8CFQ7PswodkKMPUA&gclsrc=ds

it will be under $380. $329 for the cheap models and up to $369+ for the high end models.
The gtx1060 was $279 at release for the cheaper model and $300 plus for the high end models.

 

[dlerious]

$400 will not happen, 2070 is $499, the xx60 series is usually about $150 cheaper than the xx70.
$499 rtx 2070 with free BF 5 game.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...cb&gclid=CNiI-OWalt8CFQ7PswodkKMPUA&gclsrc=ds

it will be under $380. $329 for the cheap models and up to $369+ for the high end models.
The gtx1060 was $279 at release for the cheaper model and $300 plus for the high end models.

The MSRP for the 3GB was $200, 6GB was $250, and 6GB FE was $300.

 

[Karnak]

Nice to finally see something. A cut down TU106 is pretty surprising. That's a large die for a a xx60 card, nearly the size to GP102/1080ti. Probably looking at performance a hair ahead of a 1070 (+5-10%) for $100 more (probably $399 MSRP). I'd be buying a 1070 at $300 or less if I was looking to upgrade.

Yeah, should be somewhere in between a Vega56 and 1070Ti performance-wise. But who cares about the performance with freaking 6GB? Like, really Nvidia? It's not that surprising but still an utter joke. Just... retarded.

 

[darkswordsman17]

$400 will not happen, 2070 is $499, the xx60 series is usually about $150 cheaper than the xx70.
$499 rtx 2070 with free BF 5 game.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...cb&gclid=CNiI-OWalt8CFQ7PswodkKMPUA&gclsrc=ds

it will be under $380. $329 for the cheap models and up to $369+ for the high end models.
The gtx1060 was $279 at release for the cheaper model and $300 plus for the high end models.

Considering how prices have gone with Turing, I think you should throw "usually" out the window.

Still no meaningful competition, and assuming they'll be pushing RTX as a premium feature, plus them still having 1070 and 1080 cards to move, I expect $400 or just under. Now if it has RTX stuff disabled, or if Navi is out long enough before Nvidia has 7nm versions, that will change. And maybe they won't be as greedy in that market and would just go for $350, but I think until they have to they'll position it higher, and then drop the price somewhat aggressively.

 

[piasabird]

You can look at benchmarks, however; they are dependent on the Motherboard, the CPU, the RAM speed and timings and voltage, and the drivers and the BIOS. Even the brand of the video card may make a difference. Then there is the cooling of the video cards RAM and processor along with the cooling of things like chip sets, bridges, and even the RAM and the drives running. An i7 may with 6 cores may greatly enhance the video card and lower end processor like an i3 or pentium may bottle neck the video card. There are a lot of variables to consider.

 

[tajoh111]

So confusing. Some experts on this forum told me that there was no price hike, and there was just a shift. That the Titan was just cancelled, and the real Titan is the 2080ti, and there was just miscommunication from Nvidia regarding the "rebrand". So now the price hike is real as the 2080ti is no longer the Titan?

Titans post the original gk100 have been largely gaming cards. Post Kepler, Titan and its high pricing was largely early admission fee for a big die for gaming.

The titan brand has been mostly an early adopter tax since the loss of the double precision. Part of the reason for this is Nvidia needed to curb demand of these parts because they were larger, had worse yields and NV wanted to maximize its profits which meant a clear separation in pricing between GP102 and GP104 until supply and yields of GP102 were at a point where the supply volume of GP102 was at high enough levels that the sales of GP102 that were former GP104 sales at that price point without selling out.

As you can see even now, the RTX 2080 ti is the card selling out even with the price gap between it and the rest of the RTX which means pricing could be even higher.

So what does the Titans before this and the RTX 2080 ti have in common? Its a big die released relatively early(actually even earlier compared to the rest of the previous Titans) and needs a high price because at lower pricing destroys demand and pricing of GT104.

The RTX 2080 ti was released at the same time as the RTX 2080, way earlier than earlier Titans. As a result, Nvidia is not getting that shot to improve on yields for the RTX 2080 ti where the volume supplied at 2080 ti is good enough that it could supply at the 700 dollar price point would enough the offset the loss in volume/sales of the RTX 2080 at that pricing. As a result and much like the earlier titans, there needs to be a big gap in price so people buy the RTX 2080's at 700/800.

So although not a titan card in name, the RTX 2080 ti/pricing serves the same purpose. It is a top performing big die gaming card released early that needs clear price separation to not interfere with RTX 2080 sales at the upper end of consumer graphics cards. If Nvidia got to stagger this launch like earlier years or simply release the RTX 2080 ti later, it would have come at a lower price tag.

So why the name change then anyways? This ironically started because of AMD. Remember the AMD frontier edition? The one with double memory and pseudo support for pro applications? This card although unsuccessful in terms of sales caused Nvidia to do something which increased the value of peoples Titans. That was they gave them semi professional drivers to match up with the frontier editions which were originally 1000/1500 dollar cards.

Since the original Titans did not have drivers to support professional applications, the titans Xp didn't look so hot and were exposed as not being really semi professional card but just big gaming cards. AMD provided partial pro drivers with the frontier edition, Nvidia considered it a threat and stepped up the drivers for the titan XP and made them semi pro cards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/6qtf9b/titan_x_pascal_benches_with_the_new_38512_driver/

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/...2018-for-adobe-premiere-autocad-vray-and-more

Compare the Titan XP to the GTX 1080 ti and you will see it performs more like a GTX quadro p6000 because of the driver support in driver applications. This mean't titan XP pricing was simply too cheap now and would start to eat into Nvidia's lucrative professional market sales.

Even without pro drivers, the RTX 2080 ti is a reasonably good workstation card. How give it the same driver treatment as the Titan Xp, you would have an outstandingly good workstation price when combined with it's top tier gaming performance, which simply has too much of a value for semi pro target market. Enough to eat into quadro sales. So what was likely to happen and did happen after these drivers were given was an increase in price had to happen along with some branding to signify this distinct market.

 

[happy medium]

With you on the performance but I'd be shocked to see Nvidia sell a 445mm2 die for $350. $450 sounds more plausible than $350. Still going w/ $400 continuing the recent tradition of decently worse price/$ for new Nvidia releases.

It's $350, not $450. Look around the internet.