Nvidia ,Rtx2080ti,2080,(2070 review is now live!) information thread. Reviews and prices

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MrTeal

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No mention in the TPU or AT articles about this having ECC. Given the worry about corruption there has been with consumer TU102, I wonder how successful this will be in the semi-pro market where memory corruption could be a bit more serious than a quick break for some retro gaming.

Cards have failed with both brands of memory, and if it was simple corruption, rebooting would fix the issue as the buffers would all be cleared.
 

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I have not personally seen a game running beyond 1080p, so... not sure how I'd weigh RTX over screen resolution.

I wanted to buy a used R9 290 from Craigs, so I went to this guy's house. He had GTA5 loaded on a 1440p monitor to prove the card works.

It looked beautiful. I'm used to 1080p monitors, and I didn't think I'd notice it beyond that. But some games look absolutely amazing at beyond 1080p resolution.

All the power to you if you can settle on a low resolution monitor. Then you can play all the games smoothly with a $250 GPU. My current monitor is a 19-inch with a max resolution of 1280x1024. Decent refresh rates at 75Hz though. It felt really different at first, but after a week or two I don't notice it anymore.

Just for refresh rates I do want a 144Hz monitor.
 

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That Titan is a workstation card only (in a remotely sane world!). Slightly cheaper than Titan V & a bit faster except for double precision.
 

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Out with the old and in with the new:

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Titan RTX @ $2500: https://www.techpowerup.com/250191/nvidia-presents-the-titan-rtx-24gb-graphics-card-at-usd-2-499

I wonder if it comes bundled with a free copy of Space Invaders?

So confusing. Some experts on this forum told me that there was no price hike, and there was just a shift. That the Titan was just cancelled, and the real Titan is the 2080ti, and there was just miscommunication from Nvidia regarding the "rebrand". So now the price hike is real as the 2080ti is no longer the Titan?
 

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So confusing. Some experts on this forum told me that there was no price hike, and there was just a shift. That the Titan was just cancelled, and the real Titan is the 2080ti, and there was just miscommunication from Nvidia regarding the "rebrand". So now the price hike is real as the 2080ti is no longer the Titan?

Yep looks that way, at least in terms of matching products like for like starting at the top end of both product range and working your way down from the top. It's become more complex to compare these cards now, I can't easily do it in my head anymore from a spec point of view really, I dunno if there can meaningfully be equivalent cards from both ranges anymore.
 

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So confusing. Some experts on this forum told me that there was no price hike, and there was just a shift. That the Titan was just cancelled, and the real Titan is the 2080ti, and there was just miscommunication from Nvidia regarding the "rebrand". So now the price hike is real as the 2080ti is no longer the Titan?
I don't think the 2080ti was ever meant to be a Titan. They knew they could charge that much for an actual rtx Titan and that's what they are doing now.
 

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Looks like Nvidia is continuing to position the Titan brand as more of a prosumer / research card and not a gaming card. Obviously it can still be used for gaming, but that's not it's main application. Kind of like the HEDT platforms on the CPU side.
 
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Yes, this hasn't changed the 'new' structure of the line up.

The Titan was due a few generations basically an overpriced gaming card - the 2080ti is still in that spot.

They'd changed a bunch of work station /deep learning etc specific things fur this Titan.
 

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What this does mean is that the only real selling point of the 2080Ti, that it was the most powerful gaming card available, is no longer true just a few months after launch.
 

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What this does mean is that the only real selling point of the 2080Ti, that it was the most powerful gaming card available, is no longer true just a few months after launch.
Titan isn't marketed as a gaming card, though.

NV's page does say this about NVLINK with Titan:

TITAN RTX NVLINK™ BRIDGE
Double the effective GPU memory capacity to 48 GB and scale performance with up to 100 GB/s in total bandwidth of data transfer utilizing the NVIDIA NVLink™ technology.
 

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Titan isn't marketed as a gaming card, though.

NV's page does say this about NVLINK with Titan:

It is a gaming card. It is the new Titan. Their marketing department is not stupid, they know that by naming it that they are announcing it as the new top end gaming card. They can talk out of both sides of their mouth, but they are intentionally positioning it as a gaming card with the name. If they truly did not want to have it viewed as the new top end gaming card they would have given it a different name. To those doing deep learning and research it would not matter what the name is.
 

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It's their (half) generational replacement for Titan V. Did they push that as a gaming card?

A tiny bit but not really.
 

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It is a gaming card. It is the new Titan. Their marketing department is not stupid, they know that by naming it that they are announcing it as the new top end gaming card. They can talk out of both sides of their mouth, but they are intentionally positioning it as a gaming card with the name. If they truly did not want to have it viewed as the new top end gaming card they would have given it a different name. To those doing deep learning and research it would not matter what the name is.
Calling it a gaming card, and then having NVLink behave differently seems odd. It also doesn't seem like it would have much of a gaming lead over the Ti?
 

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Calling it a gaming card, and then having NVLink behave differently seems odd. It also doesn't seem like it would have much of a gaming lead over the Ti?
At stock Titan Xp didn't even have a gaming lead over the 1080Ti due to lower clocks. Titan RTX should at least be faster than 2080 Ti, though justifying the doubling of price is going to be pretty difficult.
My bad, reading the wrong Titan X Pascal line. Still, with both a shader and clockspeed advantage over the 2080Ti Titan RTX should at least match the performance advantage we had with Ti vs Titan for Pascal.
 

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I don't believe that NVLink will work any differently on this one than it has on any other Turing or Volta GPU. You only get to use both memory pools separately in compute or specially written DX12, not off-the-shelf SLI.
 

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The quadro cards appear to pool the memory?

Multi-GPU Technology Support

NVIDIA NVLink High Speed Interface

Connect a pair of Quadro RTX 5000 boards with NVLink to essentially double the amount of GPU memory available, double CUDA, RT and Tensor Core counts, and scale application performance by enabling GPU-to-GPU data transfers at rates up to 50 GB/Sec.


Available Accessories

  • RTX5KNVLINKX8S2RKIT provides an NVLink connector for the RTX 5000 suitable for standard PCIe slot spacing motherboards, effectively fusing two physical boards into one logical entity with 6144 CUDA Cores, 768 Tensor Cores, 96 RT Cores, and 32 GB of GDDR6 memory, with a bandwidth of 50 GB/Sec. Order PN RTX5KNVLINKX8S2RKIT when ultimate performance and capabilities are required with two RTX 5000 boards (application support required).
GPU MEMORY MEMORY w/ NVLINK RAY TRACING CUDA CORES RT CORES TENSOR CORES
Quadro RTX 8000 48GB 96GB 10 GigaRays/sec 4,608 72 576
Quadro RTX 6000 24GB 48GB 10 GigaRays/sec 4,608 72 576
Quadro RTX 5000 16GB 32GB 8 GigaRays/sec 3,072 48 384
Quadro RTX 4000 8GB N/A 6 Giga Rays/Sec 2,304 36 288


https://www.pny.com/nvidia-quadro-rtx-5000
 
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Right - but there is a caveat. It won't be pooled under normal DX11 style SLI. Your app has to support that to have it work like that, and unfortuntely almost no games have done anything other than DX11 SLI or DX12 in zero effort DX11 style implicit multi-adapter. Neither of those are going to add memory pools. Not that you would really need it anyways. Realistically you only need that large of a memory pool for compute and professional workloads, which should be supported.
 

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Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 OC pictured, features 1920 CUDA cores

Grain of salt but VC were reliable during turing leaks, 1920/2304 against the xx70 this time round to place it round 350-400 bucks (1070/ti/Vega56) and warrant the RTX buy-in tax (?)
Nice to finally see something. A cut down TU106 is pretty surprising. That's a large die for a a xx60 card, nearly the size to GP102/1080ti. Probably looking at performance a hair ahead of a 1070 (+5-10%) for $100 more (probably $399 MSRP). I'd be buying a 1070 at $300 or less if I was looking to upgrade.