NVIDIA promises to ship Kepler this year

[bryanW1995]

Because it is extremism on your part by offering Fermi failure and an extremely disappointed red team.

Fermi is an architecture, which many product sku's were based on. And don't remember an extremely disappointed red team either.

HUH? Fermi being 7 months late, very power hungry/hot/loud, and nowhere close to 5970 performance was considered a huge failure at the time. AMD had a huge dx11 lead + was able to take advantage of the win 7 launch. Later, many/most assumed that amd would continue the lead with the refresh but instead nvidia got gtx 460 out before 68x0, then they got gtx 570/580 out before 69x0. AND nvidia got about the same performance improvement with the refresh that amd did, but nvidia also took care of their noise/power/heat problem, at least enough so that it wasn't a deal-breaker like it was for gtx 470/480 with many people. And re: red team disappointment, go look up the pre-launch thread for 69x0.

 

[sawtx]

GTC in the United States was moved back but had their first GTC in Japan:

http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/07/gpu-technology-conference-1000-strong-in-tokyo/

So? He was talking about the one in October which got moved back and he seemingly didn't know about it.

 

[SirPauly]

HUH? Fermi being 7 months late, very power hungry/hot/loud, and nowhere close to 5970 performance was considered a huge failure at the time. AMD had a huge dx11 lead + was able to take advantage of the win 7 launch. Later, many/most assumed that amd would continue the lead with the refresh but instead nvidia got gtx 460 out before 68x0, then they got gtx 570/580 out before 69x0. AND nvidia got about the same performance improvement with the refresh that amd did, but nvidia also took care of their noise/power/heat problem, at least enough so that it wasn't a deal-breaker like it was for gtx 470/480 with many people. And re: red team disappointment, go look up the pre-launch thread for 69x0.

And the ones that made such claims were a bit short-sided. Fermi was an architecture that product sku's would be created for the GeForce, Tesla and Quadro families.

 

[SirPauly]

So? He was talking about the one in October which got moved back and he seemingly didn't know about it.

And probably doesn't know about the other GTC's as well.

 

[happy medium]

This means they ll start shipping cards around the world, on December 31st.
It also means that you ll be able to BUY the cards 2months lateron (in 2012).

or it could mean they are shipping cards around the world in Sept. and selling them at retail in Nov.

NO one knows for sure.

 

[notty22]

The graphics landscape has changed greatly from a year ago, when Fermi was late.
Now AMD graphics division is losing money and there is no 6970 stock at Newegg ?
What does that speak of ? A shorter production run than GF100 ?

 

[waffleironhead]

The graphics landscape has changed greatly from a year ago, when Fermi was late.
Now AMD graphics division is losing money and there is no 6970 stock at Newegg ?
What does that speak of ? A shorter production run than GF100 ?

lies, plain and simple. Do you even search before you post this stuff.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127554

 

[Jionix]

The graphics landscape has changed greatly from a year ago, when Fermi was late.
Now AMD graphics division is losing money and there is no 6970 stock at Newegg ?
What does that speak of ? A shorter production run than GF100 ?

Even with your attempt to associate your post with the topic at hand, it doesn't make your FUD acceptable.

 

[happy medium]

lies, plain and simple. Do you even search before you post this stuff.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127554

I just did a quick search around the internet and I made a thread about this a few days ago. Something is going on here, I don't see many 6970's for sale and if they do have them , they have a few left in stock or they say shipping in 5 to 7 days. Tiger direct had 5 or 6 model a few days ago, now they have 1.

Bitcoins sales are not enough to do this.
Mabe just a temporary shortage?

 

[Dribble]

Both nvidia and AMD have the designs ready, but both are bound by TSMC's ability to make working chips at 28nm. Who releases first has probably to do with who has the smallest chip as that's easer to make. Going by previous history that would most likely be Ati. How long after the second company releases depends on the difference in chip size and how quickly TSMC can manage to get that larger chip size working. Could be 1 month, could be 6 months again.

 

[badb0y]

I just did a quick search around the internet and I made a thread about this a few days ago. Something is going on here, I don't see many 6970's for sale and if they do have them , they have a few left in stock or they say shipping in 5 to 7 days. Tiger direct had 5 or 6 model a few days ago, now they have 1.

Bitcoins sales are not enough to do this.
Mabe just a temporary shortage?

You best be joking. There is a guy who has 30 or something 5970s running lol. But yea it may be a temporary shortage or maybe they are getting ready to launch the HD 7xxx series . A person can dream can't he?

 

[96Firebird]

But yea it may be a temporary shortage or maybe they are getting ready to launch the HD 7xxx series . A person can dream can't he?

When was the last time a previous generation card sold out before the next generation was ready? Usually they are both selling together for at least a couple of months, if not longer. Thats when you see the best deals, with massive rebates and deals to move old stock.

 

[Red Storm]

When was the last time a previous generation card sold out before the next generation was ready? Usually they are both selling together for at least a couple of months, if not longer. Thats when you see the best deals, with massive rebates and deals to move old stock.

When was the last time a previous generation card could be used to make money off of number crunching?

I don't know how many people are buying em because of bitcoins, but I've seen quite a few individuals who have a lot of Radeons just for mining, so it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case.

 

[Spikesoldier]

I just did a quick search around the internet and I made a thread about this a few days ago. Something is going on here, I don't see many 6970's for sale and if they do have them , they have a few left in stock or they say shipping in 5 to 7 days. Tiger direct had 5 or 6 model a few days ago, now they have 1.

Bitcoins sales are not enough to do this.
Mabe just a temporary shortage?

maybe they learned to stop making so many cards before they launch a new series so the old gen doesnt cannibalize sales of the new gen.

or the 6xxx series sold better than the 5xxx series.

and im sure bitcoiners had something to do with it.

just a thought

 

[Firestorm007]

The graphics landscape has changed greatly from a year ago, when Fermi was late.
Now AMD graphics division is losing money and there is no 6970 stock at Newegg ?
What does that speak of ? A shorter production run than GF100 ?

You can't be serious...and reach harder next time... Also, who cares that they're losing $$$ when they keep pumping out the best video cards on the market. I don't own AMD stock, so it doesn't bother me one bit.

 

[Firestorm007]

When was the last time a previous generation card sold out before the next generation was ready? Usually they are both selling together for at least a couple of months, if not longer. Thats when you see the best deals, with massive rebates and deals to move old stock.

Now that's a fair observation and I agree with you.

 

[SirPauly]

You can't be serious...and reach harder next time... Also, who cares that they're losing $$$ when they keep pumping out the best video cards on the market. I don't own AMD stock, so it doesn't bother me one bit.

Notty is actually correct though! AMD a year ago did take over the over-all discrete leadership and controlled the mobile discrete lead by an incredible margin. Today, nVidia has a nice lead in over-all discrete leadership and has over-taken AMD and their huge lead in mobile discrete.

 

[AtenRa]

Notty is actually correct though! AMD a year ago did take over the over-all discrete leadership and controlled the mobile discrete lead by an incredible margin. Today, nVidia has a nice lead in over-all discrete leadership and has over-taken AMD and their huge lead in mobile discrete.

Can you please provide a link or something for that ??

 

[SirPauly]

The cause is a report put out over the weekend by semiconductor research consultancy Mercury Research, which reports that Nvidia’s share of standalone graphics processors, or “GPUs,” in notebook computers jumped by a whopping 9 percentage points in Q2, leaving the company with 50.6% of the units shipped, trumping the 49.4% share of Nvidia’s competitor, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD).

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...els-aggressive-sandy-bridge-push/?mod=BOLBlog

 

[n0x1ous]

Optimus 5xxm parts doing well it seems. Much better support from OEM's than whatever AMD's switchable solution is called.

I havent even seen a review for one of these yet.

I have a XPS 17 with Optimus (GT 435m) that has been perfect so far

 

[Crap Daddy]

You can't be serious...and reach harder next time... Also, who cares that they're losing $$$ when they keep pumping out the best video cards on the market. I don't own AMD stock, so it doesn't bother me one bit.

What are you reffering to by "the best video cards on the market"?

 

[Grooveriding]

Notty is actually correct though! AMD a year ago did take over the over-all discrete leadership and controlled the mobile discrete lead by an incredible margin. Today, nVidia has a nice lead in over-all discrete leadership and has over-taken AMD and their huge lead in mobile discrete.

This is incorrect. AMD overtook Nvidia in the share of discreet DX11 cards, they have never overtaken overall. AMD continues to hold the majority share of the installed base of DX11 video cards, while NV continues to hold overall share.

This is attributed to AMD getting DX11 cards to market first and capitalizing on that good execution up through to the 6XXX series, while nvidia holds overall share due to the great success of the old 8XXX series iand t's rebadged 9XXX series brethren.

 

[n0x1ous]

This is incorrect. AMD overtook Nvidia in the share of discreet DX11 cards, they have never overtaken overall. AMD continues to hold the majority share of the installed base of DX11 video cards, while NV continues to hold overall share.

This is attributed to AMD getting DX11 cards to market first and capitalizing on that good execution up through to the 6XXX series, while nvidia holds overall share due to the great success of the old 8XXX series iand t's rebadged 9XXX series brethren.

This sounds about right although i thought AMD did take overall in discrete mobile? maybe not....

I think the GTX 200 series also was a pretty good seller as well. I would think in more numbers than either Fermi iteration anyway.

 

[SirPauly]

This is incorrect. AMD overtook Nvidia in the share of discreet DX11 cards, they have never overtaken overall. AMD continues to hold the majority share of the installed base of DX11 video cards, while NV continues to hold overall share.

This is attributed to AMD getting DX11 cards to market first and capitalizing on that good execution up through to the 6XXX series, while nvidia holds overall share due to the great success of the old 8XXX series iand t's rebadged 9XXX series brethren.

AMD did take the lead in over-all discrete in 2010 for one quarter.

http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Takes+Discrete+Graphics+Market+Lead+from+NVIDIA/article19216.htm

 

[Grooveriding]

This sounds about right although i thought AMD did take overall in discrete mobile? maybe not....

I think the GTX 200 series also was a pretty good seller as well. I would think in more numbers than either Fermi iteration anyway.

As far as I know AMD still holds the majority share of mobile GPUs. That quote referred to units shipped for the period and was put out of context to twist it to look like overall holdings.

Basically was completely irrelevant to the thread.