Nvidia is the minority player in the market.

[SiliconWars]

I keep reading the same stuff about "Devs won't code for Mantle/AMD specifically because AMD is the smallest player in the market" or thereabouts. This is wrong any way you look at it.

AMD sells more graphics products than Nvidia, period.

Proof - http://jonpeddie.com/press-releases/details/amd-winner-in-q2-intel-up-nvidia-down/

Yes that includes APU's, but people do actually game on APU's even if it's just minecraft or WoW. It doesn't include ARM tablets and phones (even if it did Nvidia would still be behind as they don't have any real market there either). It also doesn't include consoles.

Nvidia sells more discrete graphics cards.

Proof - http://jonpeddie.com/press-releases/details/add-in-board-market-down-in-q2-amd-gains-market-share/

Nvidia currently has 62% vs AMD's 38% of the add-in board market. But look at the numbers in the article.

There were 14 million graphics cards sold in Q2 which means 8.7 million cards sold for Nvidia and 5.3 million sold for AMD, so a 3.4 million unit lead for Nvidia in discrete. We know that the PS4 and Xbox will easily outsell that difference, hell even in the UK alone the next gen consoles are expected to sell over 3 million units - http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/16/ps4...t-3-1-million-units-in-the-uk-this-christmas/

So even if you discount APU's as a gaming irrelevance (which they aren't), AMD is the majority of the gaming market by Christmas. I doubt anyone expects the discrete graphics situation is going to get worse for AMD over the coming months and in reality we're probably looking at a near 66%-33% overall lead for AMD by Christmas.

TLDR, Nvidia is the minority player in the gaming market any way you look at it, the situation will worsen for them and there is no reason why devs won't code for Mantle or AMD specifically due to market share concerns.

 

[sontin]

I give you a hint:
These numbers show how many GPUs were sold in one quarter. nVidia sold more than 100 million Kepler cards since march 2012.
And then there is Tegra.

 

[SiliconWars]

I give you a hint:
These numbers show how many GPUs were sold in one quarter. nVidia sold more than 100 million Kepler cards since march 2012.
And then there is Tegra.

You've been asked to prove that 100 million Kepler number before and the less said about Tegra the better lol.

 

[USER8000]

I give you a hint:
These numbers show how many GPUs were sold in one quarter. nVidia sold more than 100 million Kepler cards since march 2012.
And then there is Tegra.

You said 90 million cards last time:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2324995&page=5&highlight=kepler+million

A mod and multiple members asked you for a citation,and you never bothered answering.

I am interested to know how you came to 90 and 100 million sales,as I have an Nvidia Kepler based card myself!

 

[blackened23]

I have two peeves here. Number one, "nvidia a minority player in the market". Nvidia has and still does have much higher discrete share than AMD, notably because of their Kepler mobile design wins. The figures shown here skew reality because they take into account integrated GPUs, which isn't indicative of what gamers are actually buying. I'm excited about the R-290X, but let's not distort reality here. Nvidia is still doing very well in the PC market, better than AMD in terms of discrete sales. Maybe R-290X can change that dynamic as the 5870 did? I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see. But I don't believe nvidia will sit around doing nothing, they are a super competitive company. Credit where credit is due and such.

Second, with regard to the linked post above. 90 million kepler cards? So if sontin is to be believed, let's put this into perspective. Apple sold 125 million iPhones in 2012. So sontin is telling us that Kepler nearly outsold the iPhone. Uh?

I'm not saying sontin is full of crap, but , yeah, about that citation.....

 

[ShintaiDK]

I keep reading the same stuff about "Devs won't code for Mantle/AMD specifically because AMD is the smallest player in the market" or thereabouts. This is wrong any way you look at it.

AMD sells more graphics products than Nvidia, period.

By your logic they should all code for Intel. Since Intel outsells AMD and nVidia combined. Period!

Fact is nVidia outsells AMD roughly 2:1 in the gaming segment.

 

[stahlhart]

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