Nvidia GT200 Speculation and Opinion - September 2008 Release?

AuDioFreaK39

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I'm gonna copy and paste from several posts I've responded to, so hopefully they will clear some things up.

My speculation:
I'm guessing the new GT200 will be a dual core architecture similar to AMD's RV670, but will support native 64-bit floating points (FP64) unlike the RV670 (how sad lol).

You guys can more than likely expect it in September 08, as this is 6 months from the 9800GX2 release - but I'm guessing Nvidia will just delay it until November to get back on track with their high end November launch schedule.

inCrysis Forums - aSASa wrote:

New rumors say its gonna have 64 ROPs, 256 TAUs, and a total of 1024 shaders. 1024Bit design, 2GB DDR4 memory
1200MHz core,
2800MHz shaders,
3400MHz memory.

There's no way the card will have 64 ROPs, as there's no use for them - I would expect to see around 32 at most. A 1024-bit design would be nice to have, but even that would be pushing the new PCI-Express 2.0 spec to the limit - yet another faulty claim. Consequently, 1024 shaders aren't likely to exist - I would expect the number to be no more than 384. The only true claim so far would be 2GB of DDR4 memory, but even then, Nvidia might skip straight to GDDR5. Based on an analysis I've read, few suggest that "the first GPUs based on GDDR5 could possibly be released in late Q2 or Q3. Of course, that also depends on NVIDIA and AMD's roadmaps, and whether that makes sense in their current plans." If this assumption is true, this would bring to light the claim that the GT200 is in fact going to be released around September as I predicted. It would nice to see GDDR5 not only for the bandwidth, but also because Samsung is claiming 6GHz speeds for its highest end chips. And finally, the best part about the new GT200 architecture is that it will allow for double-precision 64-bit FPs, which will bring great performance leaps in just a few months to come.

inCrysis Forums - DoomLord52 wrote:

lol, the 8800GTX / Ultra were #1 for..... how long?
launched: Nov 8, 2006
still # 1: Feb 23, 2008
according to that thing it will be best until:
March 11, 2008

..so that makes it # 1 for 17 months..... wtf.

That's because Nvidia "skipped" an entire launch sequence in 2007 by continuing the GeForce 8 series up until now. Even more so, the 9 series is simply a die shrink/refresh (similar to Intel's "tick" "tock" method), and therefore we aren't even going to see any true architecture improvements until GT200 which is close to 2 years after the launch of GeForce 8.

However, in a normal sequence of product launches, Nvidia (and ATi) typically will launch card successors within 6 months of each other (7950GX2 in May 06 > 8800GTX in November 06 > 8800Ultra in May 07 > G92 8800GT in November 07 [if used in SLi]). Also note that the 9800GX2 was originally scheduled for November 2007, which would make it close to a ~6 month successor to the 8800Ultra - however, there were delays - November turned into late January, which turned into February 14th, which now turned into March 11th. sad

This makes me wonder if Nvidia will release the GT200 in September (6 months from 9800GX2), or if it will compensate for time issues and delay it until November.
 

BFG10K

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I'd be happy if all they did was take an 8800 Ultra, shrunk it to 65 nm and gave it 256 SPs. They could leave everything else the same and it'd still probably be 50% faster than an 8800 Ultra.

I do not want a GX2/X2 configuration because it'll suck balls compared to a true single card.

As for a Sept-Nov launch, that would be painful if I had to wait that long as it would have taken two years for a 8800 GTX to be truly beaten.
 

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
I'd be happy if all they did was take an 8800 Ultra, shrunk it to 65 nm and gave it 256 SPs. They could leave everything else the same and it'd still probably be 50% faster than an 8800 Ultra.

I do not want a GX2/X2 configuration because it'll suck balls compared to a true single card.

As for a Sept-Nov launch, that would be painful if I had to wait that long as it would have taken two years for a 8800 GTX to be truly beaten.

:thumbsup:

It will be unbelievable if the GTX can hold on to being such a good and one of the fastest video cards for 2 years. Whoever bought one the day it came out really got their money's worth.
 

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
I'd be happy if all they did was take an 8800 Ultra, shrunk it to 65 nm and gave it 256 SPs. They could leave everything else the same and it'd still probably be 50% faster than an 8800 Ultra.

I do not want a GX2/X2 configuration because it'll suck balls compared to a true single card.

As for a Sept-Nov launch, that would be painful if I had to wait that long as it would have taken two years for a 8800 GTX to be truly beaten.

Presumably you're not a fan of the 3870X2 then BFG?

On the two year thing, it's all a matter of perspective.

When cards come out in one year, you'll see posts all over the net about how people are angered their card was made obsolete so quickly, devalued, and now they have to spend $500 again.

Make it two years and they complain of boredom with the old parts that, in this case anyway, do 99% of what you'd want anyway.

Are there any games you aren't playing at your chosen resolution/IQ setting with your Ultra BFG? (other than Crysis, the game only Jesus runs fast)
 

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By the beginning of summer, ill be doing a full computer upgrade.

But for right now, I have no idea which I will go with. But I do know this....If I choose Nvidia, it WILL be EVGA.
 

BFG10K

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Presumably you're not a fan of the 3870X2 then BFG?
Not really; it's "good" only for the reason that it puts ATi back in the game but it's generally useless for someone like me.

Are there any games you aren't playing at your chosen resolution/IQ setting with your Ultra BFG? (other than Crysis, the game only Jesus runs fast)
Newer games like Bioshock, MoH Airborne, Call of Juarez, Jericho, etc. I have to either do 1600x1200 or 1760x1320 in those.

More performance is also handy for older games so I can crank the AA.