Nvidia GPUs being used in 21st century AEGIS competitor

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Fallen Kell

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Umm... you do know that AEGIS is a defensive system right? It isn't a first strike weapon, but an ANTI-first strike weapon that with add-ons is designed to shoot down missiles like nuclear weapons.

One only has to look at all the launches North Korea has done in the last few months to understand why these systems are being developed and deployed.
 
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Kenmitch

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Full blown nuclear war = Nobody wins anyway.

Guess maybe with superior tracking a person would have a more clear look at how many minutes/seconds of life they have left....Guess in the end it may be able to give enough time to kiss your arse goodbye!
 

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Full blown nuclear war = Nobody wins anyway.

Guess maybe with superior tracking a person would have a more clear look at how many minutes/seconds of life they have left....Guess in the end it may be able to give enough time to kiss your arse goodbye!
A thermonuclear war most likely will wipeout humanity from this planet. Maybe roaches will finally have their day in the sun, let's see if the countdown begins?
 

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Umm... you do know that AEGIS is a defensive system right? It isn't a first strike weapon, but an ANTI-first strike weapon that with add-ons is designed to shoot down missiles like nuclear weapons.

One only has to look at all the launches North Korea has done in the last few months to understand why these systems are being developed and deployed.

The only reason to have ballistic missile countering is to negate Mutually Assured Destruction so that one can launch a First Strike nuclear attack with a high probability of victory instead of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Nukes are what save the world from war, Nuke countering simply will result in nuclear winter.
 

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The only reason to have ballistic missile countering is to negate Mutually Assured Destruction so that one can launch a First Strike nuclear attack with a high probability of victory instead of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Nukes are what save the world from war, Nuke countering simply will result in nuclear winter.
Agreed.

A strong defence in the hands of an aggressive nation removes any limitations on power projection.

I think too many have lost the fear of nukes and think its a game to play. If we assume the OP is right then its coming. Russia and China will not be kept down.
 

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The only reason to have ballistic missile countering is to negate Mutually Assured Destruction so that one can launch a First Strike nuclear attack with a high probability of victory instead of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Nukes are what save the world from war, Nuke countering simply will result in nuclear winter.
that is retarded thinking by the guys in charge. 1000 nukes exploding inside the atmosphere of the earth would affect everyone. WW3 will end with nukes. so if anyone wants to start a war with russia or china they need to be shut up with extreme prejudice. I don't know about you guys, but I like living.
 

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that is retarded thinking by the guys in charge. 1000 nukes exploding inside the atmosphere of the earth would affect everyone. WW3 will end with nukes. so if anyone wants to start a war with russia or china they need to be shut up with extreme prejudice. I don't know about you guys, but I like living.

Yet there are thousands of people living 50 miles away from Chernobyl... If we had 1000 Chernobyl-size uninhabitable zones, or even zones 10 times larger, there would still be plenty of habitable land left. And the southern hemisphere might even be completely untouched.
 

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Yet there are thousands of people living 50 miles away from Chernobyl... If we had 1000 Chernobyl-size uninhabitable zones, or even zones 10 times larger, there would still be plenty of habitable land left. And the southern hemisphere might even be completely untouched.
Like I said a few posts previously.

"I think too many have lost the fear of nukes and think its a game to play."
 

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The only reason to have ballistic missile countering is to negate Mutually Assured Destruction so that one can launch a First Strike nuclear attack with a high probability of victory instead of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Nukes are what save the world from war, Nuke countering simply will result in nuclear winter.

Someone didn't see, read, or comprehend my point about North Korea.

The reason to have it is to keep rogue nations with insane leaders who have nuclear weapons from being able to hold 1/3 of the world hostage, demand attention and homage as well as tribute for being benevolent for not already incinerating everyone within range of his weapons. The leader there is actually insane and believes he is a god. He had no problems killing off the rest of his family (i.e. anyone that could have possibly held enough sway to have taken leadership when it was found that he was really insane). He has no problems letting thousands of his citizens starve to death. What makes you think he has any restraint from hitting the nuke button? Again, afterall, he is a god and will transcend this world even if his body is destroyed.
 
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Yet there are thousands of people living 50 miles away from Chernobyl... If we had 1000 Chernobyl-size uninhabitable zones, or even zones 10 times larger, there would still be plenty of habitable land left. And the southern hemisphere might even be completely untouched.
Chernobyl (blast) was nowhere near the size or potency of the most powerful fission bomb some of these nations have. Also there are fusion bombs which can be at least 3K times more powerful than the WW2 bombs combined. Just look up Tsar Bomba, it was halved in (destructive) propensity just cause the Soviets probably didn't want a hole in the earth the size of New York.
 

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The only reason to have ballistic missile countering is to negate Mutually Assured Destruction so that one can launch a First Strike nuclear attack with a high probability of victory instead of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Nukes are what save the world from war, Nuke countering simply will result in nuclear winter.

The US military being strewn out from one end of the globe to the other is the only thing that saves the world from war. What do you think Putin would do if there was no US military in Europe? What do you think China would do if there was no US military in Japan and S Korea.

I think the next time N Korea or Iran tests one of their new missiles the US should shoot it down, just for shites and giggles. WTH are either of them gonna do about it? Cry to the UN? lol
 

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The US military being strewn out from one end of the globe to the other is the only thing that saves the world from war. What do you think Putin would do if there was no US military in Europe? What do you think China would do if there was no US military in Japan and S Korea.

I think the next time N Korea or Iran tests one of their new missiles the US should shoot it down, just for shites and giggles. WTH are either of them gonna do about it? Cry to the UN? lol

The Roman empire, the British empire, the French empire, etc. etc. etc.

No empire prevents war.

The only reason there hasn't been WWIII yet is Mutually Assured Destruction.

Any weakening of Mutually Assured Destruction will inevitably lead fairly quickly (within 20 years) to global thermonuclear war.

Fancy words and propaganda won't save the world from the ashes of victory.

Someone didn't see, read, or comprehend my point about North Korea.

The reason to have it is to keep rogue nations with insane leaders who have nuclear weapons from being able to hold 1/3 of the world hostage, demand attention and homage as well as tribute for being benevolent for not already incinerating everyone within range of his weapons. The leader there is actually insane and believes he is a god. He had no problems killing off the rest of his family (i.e. anyone that could have possibly held enough sway to have taken leadership when it was found that he was really insane). He has no problems letting thousands of his citizens starve to death. What makes you think he has any restraint from hitting the nuke button? Again, afterall, he is a god and will transcend this world even if his body is destroyed.

All challengers to empire are demonized by empire.

That's what happened to Saddam, who was 100% a US asset until he became a loose end at the end of the cold war. (Gulf War I)
The US armed him with chemical weapons to fight Iran in the proxy war against the Soviets and then the US was aghast that Saddam "somehow" came across chemical weapons. (Gulf War II)
The threat he posed to empire with his dedollarization effort, trying to start selling oil for Euros instead of dollars, threatening the current Petrodollar system.
First you declaw, then you chop off the head.

That's what happened to Ghaddafi, who got rid of his weapons of mass destruction in a deal with Bush for mutual cooperation and security against terrorism.
The US (As a favor to Britain and France) subsequently sent in their closest allies Al Queda and ISIS to destroy Libya to stop the threat Ghaddafi posed by threatening the African French Currency that is used in North Africa, as well as by the threat to the Petro Dollar when he proposed the switch to a gold dinar. Threats to the Petro Dollar are direct threats to the continued US ability to bill the world for it's expenses by printing the USD.
First you declaw, then you chop off the head.

The second North Korea stops spending the large amount they do on their military defense, the US plans to invade North Korea with South Korean and Japanese backing to carve out the buffer zone between China and US forces in South Korea.

I could go on, but Geopolitical Realpolitik is far too broad for a couple of posts in a tech forum.

The only thing still hindering US plans for global domination is Mutually Assured Destruction, and therefore hindering the onset of World War III.
 
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The Roman empire, the British empire, the French empire, etc. etc. etc.

No empire prevents war.

The only reason there hasn't been WWIII yet is Mutually Assured Destruction.

Any weakening of Mutually Assured Destruction will inevitably lead fairly quickly (within 20 years) to global thermonuclear war.

Fancy words and propaganda won't save the world from the ashes of victory.

Well, in 2020 the US will be allowed to remove their troops from Europe (doesn't mean they will). If I lived in Europe I would pray it never happened.

You can believe that somehow it's Nukes that keep these imperialistic regimes inside their borders. Why do you think Russia gets so concerned with US military in former Soviet Block countries? It's not like the US is going to attack Russia. It stops Russia from invading these smaller (or larger) countries if there's US military there. Same with China and it's strategic neighbors.

Anyhow, onn topic. Why do we care about defense computers in VC&G anyway? This thread should be elsewhere, IMO. It's got nothing to do with graphics or video.
 

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Well, in 2020 the US will be allowed to remove their troops from Europe (doesn't mean they will). If I lived in Europe I would pray it never happened.

You can believe that somehow it's Nukes that keep these imperialistic regimes inside their borders. Why do you think Russia gets so concerned with US military in former Soviet Block countries? It's not like the US is going to attack Russia. It stops Russia from invading these smaller (or larger) countries if there's US military there. Same with China and it's strategic neighbors.

Anyhow, onn topic. Why do we care about defense computers in VC&G anyway? This thread should be elsewhere, IMO. It's got nothing to do with graphics or video.

The closer you are to the borders, the more effective anti-ballistic missile systems are, as the most sure-fire anti-ballistic missile systems are launch/boost phase interceptors (as that's when they accelerate to full speed).

Also you have to remember the purpose of buffer states, it's not for any sort of pure military advantage when war breaks out, it's to have a buffer against provocations from both sides to escalate out of control.
 

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Guys, this has gone way off topic. Good news for Nvidia, I suppose. That is that, we don't need the politics/nuclear discussion here, which has nothing to do with VC&G. Thread closed.
 
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