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nVidia geforce2 GO (notebook chip)

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No Lifer
So long ATi, it was nice knowing ya 😉 3dfx should jump into the market as well, couldn't hurt 😉



<< nVIDIA will be announcing Geforce2Go, a 3D chipset aimed at the notebook
market. It will be the first notebook chipset having hardware T&amp;L + 3D
functions.

It's competitor is the ATi Mobility 128, which is currently the fastest
chipset.

ATi has not announce Radeon based chipset for notebook thus not able to
counterattack nVIDIA. It looks like ATi will lose out this time round since
nVidia has solutions for desktop, servers, notebook, gaming platform -
basically all platforms.

nVIDIA Geforce2 Go chipset will be showcased at Comdex/Fall on coming Monday
and will announce it's benchmark results.
Concurrently in Chinese, Russian >>


http://www.ocworkbench.com
 
Finally, that will solve the weakest bottleneck in a laptop. 😉

Imagine a laptop with 1Ghz PIII, 256MB PC-133, GeForce2 GO Video card and of course, a Ultra-Wide SCSI-2 hard drive. :Q
 
FINALLY.

ATI has had the market for too long, no competition. There's no reason for graphics in notebooks to be so slow at all, I cringe every time I have to do graphics heavy work on a notebook because it is slow as hell.

 
Didn't anyone notice on the same page that ALI will show a mobile Athlon notebook? Maybe we're in for a mobile cpu war as well as desktop.
 
3dfx could never have gone into the market with its current product line. Its VSA chips suck up too much power.
 
Yeah, and at .25 micron they are rather hot too. Maybe they will do a .18 micron mobile version of the Rampage? :Q
 
nvida kicks butt left and right
my last notebook has a rage lt pro and that with a piii-800
with no competition there is no advance
 
nvidia will not automatically take over the notebook market because of this. 90% of laptop users could care less if their notebook has a 3d accelerator. The nvidia chip will cost more anyways
 


<< The nvidia chip will cost more anyways >>


Do you have proof? Have you seen some figures on chip pricing yet?
 
NFS4, that's almost guaranteed to be a higher cost..

not to mention the extra power draw this chip will have..

it'd be nice to have an LCD display without nearly as much power draw, that would offset increased chip power..
 
I'm just saying that nobody knows how much they are gonna cost. nVidia will have to price their chips to be competitive with other manufacturers (namely ATi). Since nVidia is prolly planning on dominating the market, they're not gonna get anywhere with an overpriced chip. Just look at how competively priced the MX is.

And if you say that only 10% of mobile users care about 3D acceleration, why would nVidia even bother doing a chip this potent in the first place? 10% of the mobile market is not at big enough number for a company like nVidia to invest money into. They'd be better off staying in the desktop arena.

nVidia wants to OWN everything. It has already displaced ATi as far as retails sails, and it won't be long before they do the same in the mobile market.
 
&quot;Just look at how competively priced the MX is.&quot;

not enought for me!

I want some Geforces down around Voodoo 3 levels before I get anything!

it's more likely that the number of notebook users that really would utilize a 3D accelerator in a notebook would be LESS then 10%. why? notebooks are typically used for powerpoint presentations (ooh, big deal) wordprocessing etc..). only gamers like us (who make up less then 10% of the Desktop PC market) would really look for this.

btw, I feel that the ATi Rage 128 could have made a much larger impact, if it's drivers were better (typical ATi syndrome)..

the VSA-100 would be perfect for notebooks if it was at .18 micron! of course it's not that powerful.. it's better then a Rage 128!
 
&quot;chip this potent&quot;

lets see some numbers on that first. as far as we know it could be half a geforce mx (which uses 4 watts, btw). the mx is two pipes with dual texturing, right? single pipe with dual texturing would be even lower power draw. of course, it wouldn't be fast, exactly (heh, i just said that 300 - 400Mtexels wasn't fast... my sdr is only 480, and it has crappy ram, so it might effectively be slower 🙂 ) lets just wait for the release tomorrow, and hopefully this thing will be fast enough and soon enough that i can play monkey island 4 on the way to malaysia.
 


<< I want some Geforces down around Voodoo 3 levels before I get anything! >>


Come on, stop being greedy!!!! Why the hell should a GeForce level chip cost as little as a Voodoo 3? That's what the TNT2/TNT2 Ultra is for.


<< it's more likely that the number of notebook users that really would utilize a 3D accelerator in a notebook would be LESS then 10%. why? notebooks are typically used for powerpoint presentations (ooh, big deal) wordprocessing etc..). only gamers like us (who make up less then 10% of the Desktop PC market) would really look for this. >>


LOL, you try to prove your point, then back up my side🙂 How many desktop machines sold through retail outlets for home users and businesses actually use their GeForce 2's and Radeons for anything more than corportate work, web browsing and email?
 
because currently we're really getting screwed comparing the bang for the buck of a high end video card in summer 1999 ($200 for a good TNT, $130 for a V3 2000, both of which are just as fast as the year previous $600 voodoo SLI) vs now, when the $150 mx is just as fast as an SDR, which wasn't too much more last november. certainly not the $450 to make it even.
 
i figure it'll cost more since it has a t&amp;l unit and is so much more complex. A geforce256 chip is over twice as big as a vsa-100 chip in die size
 


<< not to mention the extra power draw this chip will have.. >>

Well the GeForce2 MX draws 3-4 watts of power... and this is specifically targetted at low power...i'm sure they can cut that down a bit.
 
it could be a .13 mx. TSMC says they tapped out for it a while ago, moving tp .13 would give a big reduction in power draw
 
It draws 3-4 watts without 3D. Turn on 3D and it apparently draws more like 10 watts. Expect this to be an underclocked MX, and likely in 16 MB configs.
 
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