Nvidia falling off the face of the earth???

spaceman

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im sitting here still with my geforce 3.
the gf4 ti's do not offer enough of a boost for me to spend $160(esp since that line is coming on 1 year old now)
where are the fx based mid/lower end cards?????


:wine:
 

spaceman

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Originally posted by: VBboy
Well, you can always buy a nice FX 5800 for a mere $399 ;)

i have never spent more than $200 on a video card :/
i doubt i ever will.
:p
 

BenSkywalker

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where are the fx based mid/lower end cards?????

The low end FX boards, some of them at least, are at NewEgg right now. Five different models of 5200 in stock as of right now(although I wouldn't think about moving from a GF3 to a FX 5200, likely a decent downgrade in many aspects). The 5600s are built on the .13u process and likely will take a bit longer yet to hit the retail channel in quantity.
 

spaceman

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
where are the fx based mid/lower end cards?????

The low end FX boards, some of them at least, are at NewEgg right now. Five different models of 5200 in stock as of right now(although I wouldn't think about moving from a GF3 to a FX 5200, likely a decent downgrade in many aspects). The 5600s are built on the .13u process and likely will take a bit longer yet to hit the retail channel in quantity.

interesting, that XFX 5200 on newegg has passive cooling.
 

chizow

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Looks like someone else has fallen off the face of the earth ;)

Yeah, 5200s are hitting the market now, and Ti4200's go for significantly less than $160 nowadays. There's been weekly specials at major B&M's on them for <$100 (CUSA and BB). Also, nVidia said they planned to ship 1.5 million GF FX GPUs in March; given the fact that they won't be shipping fully assembled boards (for non-5800 GPUs) to their AIB partners, I would expect a bit of ramp up time for AIB-makers to get them to market. Should see 'em in quantity (the 150nm parts at least), however it seems the 130nm mid-range parts (9600 and 5600) are seeing some delays from both ATi and nVidia, respectively.

Chiz
 

spaceman

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Originally posted by: chizow
Looks like someone else has fallen off the face of the earth ;)

Yeah, 5200s are hitting the market now, and Ti4200's go for significantly less than $160 nowadays. There's been weekly specials at major B&M's on them for <$100 (CUSA and BB). Also, nVidia said they planned to ship 1.5 million GF FX GPUs in March; given the fact that they won't be shipping fully assembled boards to their AIB partners, I would expect a bit of ramp up time for AIB-makers to get them to market. Should see 'em in quantity (the 150nm parts at least), however it seems the 130nm mid-range parts (9600 and 5600) are seeing some delays from both ATi and nVidia, respectively.

Chiz

any reviews of the 5200's?
 

chizow

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Any of the major sites have reviews, there's quite a few links embedded in flame wars in the video forum. I'll link some later if you can't find any, but heading to the office right now. For the most part though, the 5200s will be a parallel move from your GF3 performance-wise unless higher resolutions and AA and AF are enabled. Personally, I'd want a little more horsepower under the engine to realistically enable those options.....

Chiz
 

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Here is a performance review of the 5200 & 5200U. Neither was very impressive IMO. I'am building a cheaper machine for a friend and I opted for a Gainward GF3 Ti200 Golden Sample after reading this LINK
 

rbV5

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With the FX series cards and NForce2 MB...plenty of NVidia to go around.
 

spaceman

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Originally posted by: cockeyed
Here is a performance review of the 5200 & 5200U. Neither was very impressive IMO. I'am building a cheaper machine for a friend and I opted for a Gainward GF3 Ti200 Golden Sample after reading this LINK

thats pretty depressing.
i guess the geforce 3 will be with me longer than i expected.
 

Markfw

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And why can't you get a ti4200 or a Radeon 9500 pro (in your budget at under $200) ? The 9500 pro will be a great increase in speed for you. It is only second to the 9700 series in performance, (if you don't count the dustbuster that you can't get anymore anyway, or the 9800 which I don't think is out yet)
 

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Originally posted by: ncircle
Originally posted by: VBboy
Well, you can always buy a nice FX 5800 for a mere $399 ;)

i have never spent more than $200 on a video card :/
i doubt i ever will.
:p

Hehehe, I'm with u! I never paid more then $115 and I have a Gainward g4 4200, An Abit Siluro 64mb OTES and a g3 ti200 I got waaaay back on black Friday (well 3days before :), in NOv of 2001.

 

EeyoreX

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Sheesh, I feel old...

Up until a few days from now, I was using a GeForce 2 MX w/64MB RAM and it served me well. Then again, I am not that big a gamer, so I didn't need the power ;)

Getting a GF4 Ti4200 w/128MB RAM. Yay me! I am closer to the current generation!! :)

\Dan
 

Dulanic

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Their behind in the top end game.... but 95% of sales come from middle/low end and their stuff is still doing quite well there GF4 is still a great card... and the newer NV30 based cards are hitting the stores now pretty much. . NV35 should be around soon enough.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: ncircle
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
where are the fx based mid/lower end cards?????

The low end FX boards, some of them at least, are at NewEgg right now. Five different models of 5200 in stock as of right now(although I wouldn't think about moving from a GF3 to a FX 5200, likely a decent downgrade in many aspects). The 5600s are built on the .13u process and likely will take a bit longer yet to hit the retail channel in quantity.

interesting, that XFX 5200 on newegg has passive cooling.

almost all video cards come with passive cooling.
 

spaceman

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ncircle
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
where are the fx based mid/lower end cards?????

The low end FX boards, some of them at least, are at NewEgg right now. Five different models of 5200 in stock as of right now(although I wouldn't think about moving from a GF3 to a FX 5200, likely a decent downgrade in many aspects). The 5600s are built on the .13u process and likely will take a bit longer yet to hit the retail channel in quantity.

interesting, that XFX 5200 on newegg has passive cooling.

almost all video cards come with passive cooling.

?
90% of the cards ive purchased in the last 4 years have had some type of fan.
*shrug*
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: ncircle

?
90% of the cards ive purchased in the last 4 years have had some type of fan.
*shrug*

a fan is still passive cooling.
 

McCarthy

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ElFenix,
How do you define active vs passive cooling? First to admit I incorrectly use terms, but I've always understood (and used) passive to mean "no moving parts, just a heatsink or bare chip" and active "fan, or water, or powered cooling device like a peltier"

Just asking
 

Pariah

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Originally posted by: McCarthy
ElFenix,
How do you define active vs passive cooling? First to admit I incorrectly use terms, but I've always understood (and used) passive to mean "no moving parts, just a heatsink or bare chip" and active "fan, or water, or powered cooling device like a peltier"

Just asking

Your definition is the commonly understood definition and is correct. ElFenix is taking the stance that active cooling actual cools something like an airconditioner or peltier as opposed to a fan which only moves heat away, which is a correct definition as well.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: McCarthy
ElFenix,
How do you define active vs passive cooling? First to admit I incorrectly use terms, but I've always understood (and used) passive to mean "no moving parts, just a heatsink or bare chip" and active "fan, or water, or powered cooling device like a peltier"

Just asking
I believe that you are correct. Passive is a heatsink, active is with a fan (or more extravagent).
 

BmXStuD

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rofl $82 for this card the "XFX (Pine Technology) Geforce FX 5200 128MB DDR Model PVT34KNA With TV-out Retail" Its a new card i would think since its so new and supposly good that it would like the TI prices:/ For that price it seems like a MX type of card ;0