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T2k

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: ViRGE
It's about damn time. Most Flash is just H.264 in Adobe's FLV container anyhow, so there's no reason not to accelerate it.

Originally posted by: bfdd
Originally posted by: SergeC
GPU accelerated flash (or even better, OpenCL-accelerated flash) would be fantastic.
i want to slap you.... you realize OpenCL wouldn't do any accelerating right? It'd still be the GPU and/or CPU doing it...
More specifically, VP3/UVD would be doing it. You're offloading decoding on to dedicated DSP on the die of the GPU. So you wouldn't use OpenCL, you would just need to know how to talk to the DSP. This would be DXVA on Windows.
Considering the current GPU-accelerated Adobe CS4 features are all OpenGL (Win/OS X lowest common denom), it's unlikely to stay, I think: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html#features

It's really nothing to do with NV or ATI, it's just Adobe haven't had the time yet, I think.
You're confusing rasterization/rendering with video decoding. OpenGL is a framework to do the former, which is why it's a great fit for something like Photoshop CS4 since it's all about image manipulation.

But OpenGL doesn't include any way to interface with video decoding DSPs, so it's not something you would use for enabling video decoding.
1. FYI: OGL-accelerated video is ~15 years old IIRC (SGI? 3DLabs?)
2. I was talkingabout Flash acceleration in general.
3. Most Nvidia Quadro support i Premiere is built on OpenGL
4. All acceleration on Mac uses OpenGL...
 

T2k

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Originally posted by: Zstream
Originally posted by: Wreckage
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20471

The below video compares playback of a 720p Flash trailer for 2009's Star Trek movie on an Atom-based netbook with integrated Intel graphics and an NVIDIA ION-based netbook with GeForce 9400M graphics. The difference is like night and day - one stutters along, whilst the other provides silky-smooth video.

What's useful is that Flash acceleration is supported on the majority of NVIDIA's GPUs - including Tegra, resulting in the possibility of high-def Flash video on portable handhelds such as Microsoft's Zune HD and various upcoming smartphones.
:cool:
So the Zotac Ion I purchased is doing what then in Hulu and flash based sites? How does one get to have Adobe Flash accelerated playback?

All I know is that I am getting bad performance in flash.

Win 7 professional
Ehh? MY Atom-based tqablet with its Intel crap has no problems with Flash...
 

Deanodarlo

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Nice, the more DXVA and other tasks that can be offloaded onto a GPU the better - as long as it doesn't keep revving up the GPU fan, because that would be annoying.

Intel are adding SSE4.1 etc to their chips to try and improve operations that GPU's excel at - we have a monster parallel processing unit in our computers, so lets see software like CUDA make use of it. I can see Intel fighting back at nvidia's plans to expand its GPU use more and more however as it's moving into its market. Remember its push for CPU exclusive rendered games? I bet they are still working on that future model.

Flash is the new disease of the internet, replacing the now redundant popups. Popups were more annoying, but Flash wastes electricity, revs up fans on laptops and slows down surfing when abused. Flashblock on Firefox is my number 1 addon because of this!
 

Soulkeeper

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Video "removed due to terms of use violation"

was the poster not allowed to show it ?
Is there a link to someplace that is allowed to show it ?


thanks
 

KIAman

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Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: Zstream
Originally posted by: Wreckage
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20471

The below video compares playback of a 720p Flash trailer for 2009's Star Trek movie on an Atom-based netbook with integrated Intel graphics and an NVIDIA ION-based netbook with GeForce 9400M graphics. The difference is like night and day - one stutters along, whilst the other provides silky-smooth video.

What's useful is that Flash acceleration is supported on the majority of NVIDIA's GPUs - including Tegra, resulting in the possibility of high-def Flash video on portable handhelds such as Microsoft's Zune HD and various upcoming smartphones.
:cool:
So the Zotac Ion I purchased is doing what then in Hulu and flash based sites? How does one get to have Adobe Flash accelerated playback?

All I know is that I am getting bad performance in flash.

Win 7 professional
Ehh? MY Atom-based tqablet with its Intel crap has no problems with Flash...
Yes it's true that there is no problem running flash, just (in my case) it uses so much CPU that nothing else can be done while flash is running.

 

Qbah

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No idea if that has been posted too, but apparently the same will be done on ATi cards, as reported by Tom's. They mention the HD5xxx series though.
 

Zstream

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Originally posted by: T2k
Originally posted by: Zstream
Originally posted by: Wreckage
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20471

The below video compares playback of a 720p Flash trailer for 2009's Star Trek movie on an Atom-based netbook with integrated Intel graphics and an NVIDIA ION-based netbook with GeForce 9400M graphics. The difference is like night and day - one stutters along, whilst the other provides silky-smooth video.

What's useful is that Flash acceleration is supported on the majority of NVIDIA's GPUs - including Tegra, resulting in the possibility of high-def Flash video on portable handhelds such as Microsoft's Zune HD and various upcoming smartphones.
:cool:
So the Zotac Ion I purchased is doing what then in Hulu and flash based sites? How does one get to have Adobe Flash accelerated playback?

All I know is that I am getting bad performance in flash.

Win 7 professional
Ehh? MY Atom-based tqablet with its Intel crap has no problems with Flash...
My 2ghz Dual core atom with the Zotac Ion board has many issues playing flash.

http://www.liliputing.com/2009...sh-video-problems.html

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=602

 

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