Nvidia confirms 680i problems

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imported_RedStar

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http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTI0NCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

As i have suspected for awhile there are indeed real issues ... |H| thinks it is hardware related. But i will believe in Nvidia awhile longer and wait for a driver fix. But i am not too hopeful (just keep in mind i am not even close to a beginner designer of the motherboard and i am prolly biased due to the problems i had with nforce 4 and controller problems).

At the very least, the problem is more widespread than many people thought.
 
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Interesting. I have the ASUS P5N32-E SLI board and I'm not having any problems here - well, I can't overclock my E6600 yet to run at 400MHz FSB, but it's chugging along nicely at 350Mhz.

Also, no data corruption problems here - sounds like it is hit or miss at the moment ...
 
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well actually there are some places that sell the striker for less than 400, newegg is just trying to milk it, I am waiting for the GA-N680SLI-DQ6, that board looks like it will run circles around the competition
 
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well i updated the title after i used largely ..and dropped that word :)

I say largely because a couple people outta many more still complain of issues. That may be user error :)
But with so many reporting great success ...i feel confident that the issue has been resolved. But, not confident enough to edit out the word "largely". And since the bios fix seems to have worked...i don't think there was a hardware flaw on the actual 680i chip afterall.

Unlike |h|, i have not seen any other brand 680i board users complaining of sata issues.

So i think the striker is fine /// but will opt for its little brother as i was always thinking that 300$ was too expensive let alone $400+
 
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well the problem should be fixed now, and I have seen some other issues with the other ASUS board
 
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Well I was hoping the beta would solve my problems but after flashing with the new beta p23 and playing with it a while, I am still having problems.
I keep loseing my raid drives. Actualy I am loseing the SATA ports. For some reason right in the middle of a game I get a blue screen for about 2 seconds then it reboots and the bios can only see 1 SATA port and the one drive on that port.
I reset CMOS and bootup and now I have all my SATA ports back and both drives.
And as far as I can tell, there is no data corruption on my drives. Just keep having to reset CMOS.
Anyone else having a problem like this?
 
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Not to brag about myself or anything, if you follow through the stick'ed thread below, you will see that I brought up (more) issues that are now being discussed.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1958010&enterthread=y

What I don't understand is how reviewers couldn't catch any of these short-comings. 'There are hundreds of hundreds of different configuration' can't be an excuse in this case. Users are experiencing problems with high-end, modern, qualified products in highly predictable manners. More and more, I'm inclined to think this is the SPP (and/or MCP) issue. That is, a hardware issue which will only be completely resolved by revised chips.
 
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specifically:

"Details
BIOS P23 Beta 1 was released to resolve a SATA instability related to signal timings. Additional testing has uncovered a second issue related to the use of NCQ. These fixes have been added to P23 BIOS Beta 2.

Release notes
Fixes NCQ issues. Includes all fixes from P23 Beta 1.



You will find the BIOS instructions below, and please post any feedback.

Thank you for your support and patience through this matter.

Floppy Method

* Download the following file: ftp://ftp.evga.com/BIOS/NF68_P23BETA2.exe
* Insert blank floppy disk into drive and run executable
* Restart your PC and set the floppy drive as the primary boot device
* The BIOS will automatically be updated, after the update restart your PC and clear CMOS

NVIDIA System Update Tool

* Download the following files:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/downl...pdatecenter.exe
and
ftp://ftp.evga.com/BIOS/p23beta2.bin
* Select browse and locate p23beta2.bin
* Select load bios
* Power off PC completely, on reboot load defaults in BIOS"
 
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Originally posted by: lopri
Not to brag about myself or anything, if you follow through the stick'ed thread below, you will see that I brought up (more) issues that are now being discussed.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1958010&enterthread=y

What I don't understand is how reviewers couldn't catch any of these short-comings. 'There are hundreds of hundreds of different configuration' can't be an excuse in this case. Users are experiencing problems with high-end, modern, qualified products in highly predictable manners. More and more, I'm inclined to think this is the SPP (and/or MCP) issue. That is, a hardware issue which will only be completely resolved by revised chips.
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There are thousands of combinations to try actually. :laugh: Seriously, the EVGA board that I have does not have the reported SATA issues and the SLI sound issues were simply solved by installing the October DX9 update before the audio drivers, the BIOS update did not matter. The reason you have not seen a 680i review from us is that we could not replicate the issue, even after a trip down to Frys to purchase a retail kit that once again had no issues. However, our two Striker samples are complete opposites, no SATA issues on either, but one board clocks like a banshee and the other one is just average, both full retail kits. One handles DDR2-900 at 1T and the other one barely makes it at 800, those are the questions we are trying to get answered now.

Personally, I love the BadAxe2 for any Conroe at this time, simply because it seems to have the least amount of issues and performs about the best at stock speeds, the RD600 is close but will not be a benchmark record board.
 
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I am not singling out AnandTech's coverage on 680i. While AT's reviews are my favorite, I (and probably many other AT'ers) also read different sites' reviews before making a purchase decision. When it comes to 680i launch reviews, I don't really recall seeing a the review pointing users out to a specific issue, other than FSB hole thingy, of which NV's explanation is, in my opinion, BS at best. On the other hand, I noticed many (all?) sites had received a 'kit' from NV for 680i review. It'd be foolish to think the 'kit' hadn't been pre-tested by NV before distribution to various sites.

Again, my statement is by no means an accusation towards a certain review. As we have observed, it seems pretty obvious that there is a bigger-than-usual quality difference among 680i SPPs, and depending on luck and other factors, the overall experience will be dramatically different per user. What I'm not understanding is that there was not even one review on the web that discusseed the issues popping currently. (again, probably because of the 'kit') And I'm afraid that unless my experience had been an isolated case, there would be more issues coming in near future. (I won't tell you what they are, though. :p)
 
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Not necessarily a crap and it's at least not as boring as 975X/P965. :p When I had a 975X (and P965 for a brief period), the whole setup, including overclocking and what not, was done in less than 24 hours and there was nothing else to do. Besides, (dare I say) I'm looking to do 8800 GTX SLI when price comes down and drivers are improved, and no other chipset is capable of doing that, so it's still my choice of platform.
 
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Originally posted by: lopri
Not necessarily a crap and it's at least not as boring as 975X/P965. :p When I had a 975X (and P965 for a brief period), the whole setup, including overclocking and what not, was done in less than 24 hours and there was nothing else to do. Besides, (dare I say) I'm looking to do 8800 GTX SLI when price comes down and drivers are improved, and no other chipset is capable of doing that, so it's still my choice of platform.
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I just happen to have an EVGA 8800 GTX for sale. I have had it installed for about a week. And have the reciept from newegg.com from 2 weeks ago.
I bought two of them for SLI but have decided to just go with one card. One 8800 GTX is all I could ever need for a couple of years at least.
I'll let it go for $575 + shipping
 
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Thanks for the offer but I'm planning to wait till early next year. I don't think the Forceware drivers are ready for 8800 SLI yet.
 
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