NVIDIA announces mainstream 7300GS

[NFS4]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_28868.html
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2674

 

[Munky]

So is it only gonna use TC, or will there be a "real" gfx card in the 7300 series lineup?

 

[A554SS1N]

As far as I've read, there will be both 64-bit and 128-bit cards....

 

[Cooler]

well thats just great!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: A554SS1N
As far as I've read, there will be both 64-bit and 128-bit cards....

ive heard different...that the 7300GS uses a 64bit memory bus with 400/(800effective)Mhz memory (DDR2 i think) with no mention of a 128bit version

 

[ElFenix]

i give it a solid 'meh'

 

[Malladine]

Man, mainstream has really let itself go...

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Malladine
Man, mainstream has really let itself go...

I'd put these in the budget category. I guess that would be mainstream for the non-gamers. But I'd consider something along the lines of a 7600gt as a midrange/mainstream gfx card.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: Malladine
Man, mainstream has really let itself go...

I'd put these in the budget category. I guess that would be mainstream for the non-gamers. But I'd consider something along the lines of a 7600gt as a midrange/mainstream gfx card.

Yeah, these are more for the Dell crowd. Just a step above onboard graphics.

 

[NoStateofMind]

SKIP IT

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: A554SS1N
As far as I've read, there will be both 64-bit and 128-bit cards....

ive heard different...that the 7300GS uses a 64bit memory bus with 400/(800effective)Mhz memory (DDR2 i think) with no mention of a 128bit version

7 series using GF2 series memory bus...
not pretty..

 

[Avalon]

And no hardlaunch

 

[Cookie Monster]

Im just wondering the performance of these little critters.

Obviously its going to be much faster than your usual 6200TC/non TC.

Edit- Im guessing that the 7300GT is the REAL deal of the 7300 series. Rumorued to have 8 pipes, and 128bit memory. But probably like 3 VS/4ROPs and clocked lower than the 7600GT.

 

[vtohthree]

I don't get Nvidia's rating system, I guess they are scaling everything in the 7000's only now, seeing that the 6800GS is a lower number but I question if the 7300 will really be faster than this. The 6800GS, though clocked lower, has top of the line ram GDDR3. Also higher bit processing, so I question the performance of this budget gpu that's ranked higher than mid-range enthusiast cards.

 

[Munky]

Video card makers are often guilty of cutting corners in the budget sector - especially NV with their MX series, the fx5200 that did not even do all the DX9 processing in HW despite being marketed as a full fledged DX9 card, and the 6-series TurboCache. Just for laughs, lets look at one of the "features" of the 7300:

Advanced NVIDIA TurboCache? technology?shares the capacity and bandwidth of dedicated video memory and dynamically available system memory for turbocharged performance and larger total graphics memory.

You'd think after reading that an average Joe Schmoe would ditch his old primitive 6800 because it didnt have all the cool advantages of TC
:laugh:

 

[Cookie Monster]

I just want benchmarks!!

 

[Cookie Monster]

Link

In chinese but scores 3dmark05 of 2163 on a 3.0ghz P4. We could repsect around 3k with an A64

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Link

In chinese but scores 3dmark05 of 2163 on a 3.0ghz P4. We could repsect around 3k with an A64

That would make it a 3dmark equivalent of a x1300 series. But real games may show different results

 

[Cookie Monster]

True. Bah, wheres the 7600GT...

 

[imhungry]

How can switching to A64 give a near 1k point increase??

 

[Cookie Monster]

Well, i was abit exaggerating but GPUs with an intel CPU usually scores alot less than their A64 counterparts by up to 1000 points in 3dmark.
I mean, a X1800XT with a Intel PD 840 will score 6800ish while with a 4800 X2 it scores around 8000ish.

 

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Well, i was abit exaggerating but GPUs with an intel CPU usually scores alot less than their A64 counterparts by up to 1000 points in 3dmark.
I mean, a X1800XT with a Intel PD 840 will score 6800ish while with a 4800 X2 it scores around 8000ish.

Because in those cases the CPU is the bottleneck.
I think that most P4/Ds with 3+ Ghz are more than enough for any low end card.

 

[imhungry]

Strange because I remember scoring within a 50 point margin when I had a 6600GT on a 2.4 ghz P4, as opposed to a 2.6Ghz AMD.

3Dmark05 measures GPU, not CPU, doesn't it? I guess I just got lucky..

 

[A554SS1N]

Originally posted by: vtohthree
I don't get Nvidia's rating system, I guess they are scaling everything in the 7000's only now, seeing that the 6800GS is a lower number but I question if the 7300 will really be faster than this. The 6800GS, though clocked lower, has top of the line ram GDDR3. Also higher bit processing, so I question the performance of this budget gpu that's ranked higher than mid-range enthusiast cards.

You really don't understand any rating system of NVidia or ATi if you think that a 7300 should be performing better than a 6800GS??!!!! Quite simply, each generation has budget/low-end, mainstream, and high-end solutions. 7300 is a budget lineup and so should be aiming at 6200-6600 vanilla performance. 7600 is a mainstream card, and is aiming at anything from between 6600GT performance to 6800GS. 7800 is the highend and is aiming at being alot better than NVidia's own 6800 ultra.

In the lowend, the 5200 wasn't faster than 4800? The 6200 wasn't faster than 5900? The 7300 won't be faster than 6800. ATi works just the same - the X300 wasn't faster than 9800, the X1300 isn't faster than X800?

The first number simply (or letter in ATi's case) relates to the generation - the standardised features. It's the second number is the one that describes the 'ranking' as you call it, and the position within that generation.

 

[mrzed]

Originally posted by: Malladine
Man, mainstream has really let itself go...

Concur completely,

As an occasional gamer and full time cheapskate, I am sitting out until I can get a noticeable jump in performance over my 9600xt for less than $150Cdn. It may happen in the next year, but wow, has it ever been a long wait.

Used to be when a new generation came out, the old high-end would bump down the line and offer a good percentage of high-end performance for 1/3 the price. My first gaming card was a GeForce MX (original) that ran any game of the day at very decent rates. Upgraded to an 8500le for just over $100 that was a very capable card in its day. I only got the 9600xt recently as I found a great deal on a used one.

For those of us who like to game, but don't have a seperate line item in the household budget for it, there's not much out there. I sometimes wonder who is buying all these mediocre budget cards, then I remember that most users don't have a clue beyond "this has bigger number and more memories"

Sad.