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nVidia announces Athlon XP with 333 fsb

Until amd puts out a 166fsb chip, (and go tell me when they are going to do that since they seem to be putting all their chips into the hammer which will be uncompatable with this mobo) they are worthless in terms of true performance. I mean unlock the xp and run it at 333mhz ddr otherwise the athlon has already maxed its bandwidth at 2.1gb/s which is pc2100...

So unlock it (which most wont attempt), oc the fsb higher (which majority of market does not) or it is a waste of money....Read recent reviews by anandtech who repeatedly states this...

Amd is being foolish in my minds by not raising the fsb awhile back...These kt333 and other 333 and 400mhz ddr boards are a marketing ploy....


Intel chips at 400fsb puts out plenty of bandwidth to the point most available memory does not meet its needs...
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Until amd puts out a 166fsb chip, (and go tell me when they are going to do that since they seem to be putting all their chips into the hammer which will be uncompatable with this mobo) they are worthless in terms of true performance. I mean unlock the xp and run it at 333mhz ddr otherwise the athlon has already maxed its bandwidth at 2.1gb/s which is pc2100...

So unlock it (which most wont attempt), oc the fsb higher (which majority of market does not) or it is a waste of money....Read recent reviews by anandtech who repeatedly states this...

Amd is being foolish in my minds by not raising the fsb awhile back...These kt333 and other 333 and 400mhz ddr boards are a marketing ploy....


Intel chips at 400fsb puts out plenty of bandwidth to the point most available memory does not meet its needs...
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Um, "They then go on to say that there will be a product announced shortly that will support the CPU FSB of 333mhz.". I assume that means a CPU with a 333FSB that runs on their board.
 
Where I'd be interested in nForce2 is the integration of FireWire and USB 2.0, a couple of technologies that seem to have real-world usefulness. I'm not satisfied with the VIA USB 2.0 controller on my A7V333, which is conflicting with my SCSI card somehow, and I disabled it. When I see the nVidia name, I expect to see good driver support and a good overall design. Dual LAN is a plus for some people too.

Everything I've read lately points to AMD not going to 166MHz with the AthlonXP, although I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
 
I assume that means a CPU with a 333FSB that runs on their board.
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The nVidia representative said, and this is right in front of the new AMD President that spoke before him, that there would be a new product announced shortly that would use the nForce2's 333mhz CPU FSB. The video gives a few other pieces of neat information, but this was the juiciest.

Craig

 
Um, "They then go on to say that there will be a product announced shortly that will support the CPU FSB of 333mhz.". I assume that means a CPU with a 333FSB that runs on their board.
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That is why I ask someone to tell me when this will come out...between t-bred that are latye and hammer that seems make or break...

Why is this good?
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Hmmm...you make me wonder!!! Cause it shows they have plenty of room to expand mobos to intel supported 333 and 400mhz ddr and even dual channel ddr at even the 400fsb models.... The expansion to those mobos will make a real difference unlike the lame kt333 mobos...
 
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If Barton had a 166MHz bus, that would be a nice boost for it, but wouldn't that reduce its backwards compatibility? Or perhaps there would be CPU's for each bus speed, like AMD did with Thunderbird at 200 and 266.
 
if amd increased their fsb then they would probably want to revamp their chipset offerings this would incloud their 760 series with their mp as well if the athlon mp's fsb also increases (i have heard rumors of the mp increasing the bus "thing it was the inquirer a few months back", if one increases i'm sure the other will)
both amd and intel like to release a new chipset to support any new chip features or abilities "officially" it seems more professional to do so
the cost of validation and other changes would prob cost AMD too much
basically AMD is gonna lose money till the Hammer comes out if things keep going the way they are
maybe the Barton will shift things a little bit but i doubt increasing the bus will yeild more than 10% performance increase at the same clock
the added cache and clock on the barton will help tho
you can always oc the fsb
mmmmmm tasty
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Um, "They then go on to say that there will be a product announced shortly that will support the CPU FSB of 333mhz.". I assume that means a CPU with a 333FSB that runs on their board.
Click to expand...

That is why I ask someone to tell me when this will come out...between t-bred that are latye and hammer that seems make or break...

Why is this good?
Click to expand...

Hmmm...you make me wonder!!! Cause it shows they have plenty of room to expand mobos to intel supported 333 and 400mhz ddr and even dual channel ddr at even the 400fsb models.... The expansion to those mobos will make a real difference unlike the lame kt333 mobos...
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I didn't mean to sound like I was flaming you, cause I wasn't. I really think that CPUs should be mated with chipsets of the same speed. Having a huge CPU bus relative to memory is no more useful than having a huge memory bus and slow CPU bus. Sure you can get faster memory for the former and you don't need anything for the latter, but both strike me as more marketing than anything else.
 
I was gonna say, a lot of us more seasoned overclockers with AMD chips are already running at 166/333 FSB.

I'm more excited about the nForce2 in terms of its increased memory performance compared to the upcoming Via 400 chipset...
 
I'd say AMD won't worry too much about revising the AMD760 chipset. VIA (for however stable/unstable you consider their chipsets) has already made the AMD761 yesterday's news, and it looks like nVidia's about to do the same thing.

As for the 760MPX, there's no telling what will happen. We have to keep in mind that both AMD and Intel have traditionally kept their MP-specialized processors a step or two behind their UP desktop cpus, MHz-wise and sometimes FSB-wise. If the AMD762 northbridge can already reach 333FSB with a pretty decent success rate, then maybe we'll see "revised" 760MPX chipsets with 333FSB. Otherwise I doubt it.
 
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