nV Tegra 2 to be reference platform for Android 3.0

[thilanliyan]

http://www.mobilemag.com/2010/12/16...-to-use-nvidia-tegra-2-as-reference-platform/

Originally posted here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=263759

Just FYI, although it is the reference platform, that doesn't mean all companies will use it. I'd say Samsung is unlikely to use it since they make their own chipsets for their phones already. Motorola, LG, and HTC will possibly use it but that's not a sure thing...Qualcomm or TI could come up with something more appealing to those companies.

EDIT:
Looks like Samsung will indeed use Tegra2 but who knows for how long because as I thought, they have their own Arm A9 Orion chipsets they are developing.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/1...2-chips-a-sign-that-orion-cpus-not-yet-ready/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/07/samsungs-orion-is-the-1ghz-dual-core-arm-cortex-a9-weve-all-be/


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[Wreckage]

Wow they could actually end up selling more CPUs than AMD soon.

 

[Gloomy]

There goes the Fusion-kills-NV theory. :awe:

 

[Wreckage]

There goes the Fusion-kills-NV theory. :awe:

Also the Nv needs an x86 license to survive theory.

That one always cracked me up because other than Intel I can't think of a company that is making a profit on x86.

 

[Gloomy]

That one always cracked me up because other than Intel I can't think of a company that is making a profit on x86.

You can just go ahead and say that you don't think Nvidia can beat Intel without twisting it into an AMD diss.

...bro.

 

[tviceman]

Just FYI, although it is the reference platform, that doesn't mean all companies will use it. I'd say Samsung is unlikely to use it since they make their own chipsets for their phones already. Motorola, LG, and HTC will possibly use it but that's not a sure thing...Qualcomm or TI could come up with something more appealing to those companies.

Funny you say Samsung is unlikely, as today's Fudzilla rumor says Samsung just placed a huge order for Tegra 2 chips.

 

[notty22]

Nvidia First With Faster Mobile Chip

LG announced a Google(GOOG_) Android Optimus 2X super phone Thursday that it calls the first dual core processor phone in the world.

From the sheer amount of people upgrading and using phones/tablets, this has to have a better financial future than their old chip set business.

 

[Wreckage]

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...arget-to-20-samsung-placed-large-tegra-order/

Citi’s research suggests Samsung (SSNLF) has “placed a sizeable order with Nvidia for Tegra 2 chips in the first half of 2011, geared for both tablets and smartphones.” The order could be $250 million to $350 million

 

[shangshang]

NV has been trying to penetrate the smartphone market, and it looks like now things are picking up for them with Tegra2. This is going to be HUGE for them. I see this as eventually bigger than desktop GPU for them.

 

[OCGuy]

Reports of My Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated

Hmmm....

 

[busydude]

Tegra 2 has been gaining a lot of traction recently. I might well own a Tegra 2 based phone next year if everything goes well, am currently looking as Motorola's Olympus. Knocks on wood.

 

[Keysplayr]

Funny you say Samsung is unlikely, as today's Fudzilla rumor says Samsung just placed a huge order for Tegra 2 chips.

Give Thilan the bbenefit of the doubt. Perhaps we souldnt take Fudzilla at any value either after recent fubared declarastions from them. Search other sources to confirm Samsungs order.

EDIT: Oops, I guess somebody did. Good for them.

 

[Gloomy]

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...arget-to-20-samsung-placed-large-tegra-order/

Holy cow.

Just wondering, how much money would it cost for Nvidia to start up a fab? I'm thinking billions, yeah?

 

[Genx87]

Mobile\handhelds is where it will be in the future. Nvidia will finally start reaping the rewards of their tegra line. They could sell a lot of chips. More than Intel and AMD combined in terms of raw numbers if they corner enough of the market. And this doesnt surprise me that much as Nvidia has been working a lot with Google and their Android OS.

 

[Dribble]

Google reference platform = big sales. Look what it did for qualcomm snapdragon.

Means that the OS will be optimised for tegra (for example as I understand it tegra graphics work differently to the tiled graphics of current smart phones). I am sure part of the reason nvidia was chosen is they are bound to be doing a TWIMTBP type job with google so their soc will work better then anyone else's.

It's also a huge win if that samsung rumour is true as samsung up-to-now would have been considered a competitor with their hummingbird soc's.

That said this is not a market lacking competition - things can change very quickly.

 

[Juncar]

Nvidia First With Faster Mobile Chip

From the sheer amount of people upgrading and using phones/tablets, this has to have a better financial future than their old chip set business.

Nvidia took some short cuts with respect to Tegra II in order to be the first one in the market for dual core mobile cpu.

 

[thilanliyan]

Funny you say Samsung is unlikely, as today's Fudzilla rumor says Samsung just placed a huge order for Tegra 2 chips.

I thought it was the case because they have their very successful Hummingbird chipsets which are in a lot of their newer smartphones (I myself had a Samsung Wave and it was really nice and snappy). I figured Samsung has the capability to match Tegra and so they would, but I could be wrong of course. I edited my OP to reflect the Samsung story.

 

[WelshBloke]

Wrong forum?

/nik

The guys in gadgets, gear and phones would probably be interested in this.

 

[Wreckage]

I thought it was the case because they have their very successful Hummingbird chipsets which are in a lot of their newer smartphones (I myself had a Samsung Wave and it was really nice and snappy). I figured Samsung has the capability to match Tegra and so they would, but I could be wrong of course. I edited my OP to reflect the Samsung story.

Maybe it has to do with the whole "reference platform" thing.

Imagine if the desktop cpu market today was like the phone chip market. With all sorts of chips flying about.

Almost reminds me of the Intel/AMD/Cyrix/winchip/powerpc days.

 

[Compddd]

As long as they keep making really fast desktop GPUs, if this helps fuel R&D for that, then good on nVidia.

 

[tviceman]

As long as they keep making really fast desktop GPUs, if this helps fuel R&D for that, then good on nVidia.

This is exactly my thoughts!

 

[thilanliyan]

Wrong forum?

/nik

The guys in gadgets, gear and phones would probably be interested in this.

Oops yeah sorry I'll ask to get it moved. I only visit 3 or 4 subforums at AT lol.

 

[thilanliyan]

Maybe it has to do with the whole "reference platform" thing.

As per my edit, Samsung is indeed making their own competitor in the form of Orion. Maybe they have had to delay that and don't want to lose out on initial sales of these newer phones.

 

[Idontcare]

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