NV Silencer 5

[Spike]

Ok, well, I just recieved my NV silencer 5. Tonight or tomorrow night I am going to first redo my CPU HSF with AS 5, then redo my BFG 6800 GT with the NV Silencer 5, AS 5, and AS ceramique. My plan is to use AS 5 on the GPU and the ceramique on the ram chips, how does this sound to everyone? People have reported how easy this is to install, but are there any snags that commonly occur? I have haerd to plug in the fan first before securing the NV onto the card due to plug placement, but thats it.

Anyone have a good site that walks you through the installation? I am by no means new to modding or adding to computers, but this is my first time attempting to modify a graphics card.... and this is the most expensive gpu I have ever purchased, so you can understand my hesitation.

Any help is welcomed!

-spike

 

[rforum]

Here is a site I found quickly. I'm sure you could find more:

http://www.systemcooling.com/nv_silencer5-01.html

 

[IlllI]

you will need something more than just ceramique on the ram chips. you will need something to 'bond' the ramsinks to the ram, otherwise they will just fall off.

 

[akira34]

Originally posted by: skunkbuster
you will need something more than just ceramique on the ram chips. you will need something to 'bond' the ramsinks to the ram, otherwise they will just fall off.

NOT with the Arctic Cooling Silencer 5 you don't. The ram sinks are part of the entire unit. I know this for a FACT, since I put one onto my 6800GT not that long ago.

BTW, EXCELLENT unit, I think you'll be happy with it, I know I am.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: akira34

Originally posted by: skunkbuster
you will need something more than just ceramique on the ram chips. you will need something to 'bond' the ramsinks to the ram, otherwise they will just fall off.

NOT with the Arctic Cooling Silencer 5 you don't. The ram sinks are part of the entire unit. I know this for a FACT, since I put one onto my 6800GT not that long ago.

BTW, EXCELLENT unit, I think you'll be happy with it, I know I am.

Yah, I was noticing the copper ramsink parts of the base and was trying to figure out how those would fall off...

so Akira, AS 5 for GPU, Ceramique for Ram? Or AS 5 for all? Or use the paste that came with it?

Just curious as to the best way possible

-spike

 

[akira34]

I used the stuff that came with it. If you decide to use other compound, make sure you apply it properly. You might not be able to do it the same way with the other stuff (depends on what the stuff that ships with it is made of)... It would be worth trying with the included compound and see how you like it. You can always remove it and apply the AS compound later.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: akira34
I used the stuff that came with it. If you decide to use other compound, make sure you apply it properly. You might not be able to do it the same way with the other stuff (depends on what the stuff that ships with it is made of)... It would be worth trying with the included compound and see how you like it. You can always remove it and apply the AS compound later.

Application is easy with the AS (at least it is with a CPU), I always use a credit card or similar card to spread a very thin layer on the core surface. As far as I know, this should not be an issue with the GPU unless the setup is differently. I would rather use AS then the stuff that comes with it as I know it is good quality, but now I am not sure...

Anyone have any experience putting AS 5 and Ceramique on a 6800GT?

-spike

 

[MDE]

Use AS5 or whatever "good" paste you want on the GPU core and use the silicone Arctic Cooling gives you on the RAM.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: MDE
Use AS5 or whatever "good" paste you want on the GPU core and use the silicone Arctic Cooling gives you on the RAM.

Is this because the packaged paste is non-conductive? If thats the case why not use ceramique? The reason I ask is I have tubes of AS 2, AS 3, AS 5, AS Epoxy, AS Ceramique, Thermalright Paste, Zalman Paste, and now Artic cooler paste so I am not sure which I need to use. (I do plan on throwing out the AS 2 now that I have 3 and 5)

-spike

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Spike

Originally posted by: MDE
Use AS5 or whatever "good" paste you want on the GPU core and use the silicone Arctic Cooling gives you on the RAM.

Is this because the packaged paste is non-conductive? If thats the case why not use ceramique? The reason I ask is I have tubes of AS 2, AS 3, AS 5, AS Epoxy, AS Ceramique, Thermalright Paste, Zalman Paste, and now Artic cooler paste so I am not sure which I need to use. (I do plan on throwing out the AS 2 now that I have 3 and 5)

-spike

That and the RAM produces so little heat it's dumb to use the good stuff on it. Look at the X800 cards, their RAM runs faster and has no heatsinks at all.

 

[Turin99]

You can't really make direct comparisons between the ram on different cards unless they use the same exact chips from the same manufacturer. Even then you can get batch differences.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Turin99
You can't really make direct comparisons between the ram on different cards unless they use the same exact chips from the same manufacturer. Even then you can get batch differences.

ATI uses Samsung GDDR3 running FASTER than the 6800GT's memory. Almost all of the 6800GTs I've seen online used, you guessed it, Samsung GDDR3 memory.

 

[ddviper]

im a little hesitant myself on putting a NV5 on, tell me how it goes

good luck

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: ddviper
im a little hesitant myself on putting a NV5 on, tell me how it goes

good luck

Mine went very smoothly. It's not hard at all.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: ddviper
im a little hesitant myself on putting a NV5 on, tell me how it goes

good luck

Mine went very smoothly. It's not hard at all.

same.
the NV5 is much easier to install than the stock unit is to take off.
But honestly this is the install steps.

1.) remove everything related to stock cooler (all screws) remove all pieces of heatsink/fan etc.
2.) install NV5 into the 4 mounting holes and tighten up. (so easy.. 30 seconds)
3.) profit

 

[ddviper]

does removing the stock hs/f void warrenty?

i also have not dont ne major mods to any pieces of equptment and am a little skeptical about messing with my $350 gfx card

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: ddviper
does removing the stock hs/f void warrenty?

i also have not dont ne major mods to any pieces of equptment and am a little skeptical about messing with my $350 gfx card

As far as I know, it does void warranty.

 

[akira34]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Turin99
You can't really make direct comparisons between the ram on different cards unless they use the same exact chips from the same manufacturer. Even then you can get batch differences.

ATI uses Samsung GDDR3 running FASTER than the 6800GT's memory. Almost all of the 6800GTs I've seen online used, you guessed it, Samsung GDDR3 memory.

Really now... Where did you see THAT??? I ask, because I looked up the spec's for ATI's x800 Pro and compared that to the eVGA 6800GT that I HAVE... Guess what... The ATI card uses DDR3, 450MHz (900MHz DDR) memory while the 6800GT uses 500MHz (1GHz DDR) memory... Looking at mine, it's 501/1002MHz...

That was just with FAST looking/checking with the manufacturer's version (the official, non-overcocked) speeds. I'm sure, IF I overcocked my card, I could get even higher numbers than that.

As far as installing the Acrtic Cooling unit goes, the hardest part is pulling the screws holding the old heatsink and fan on the card. The rest is a snap, IF you can follow the provided instructions.

 

[ddviper]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: ddviper
does removing the stock hs/f void warrenty?

i also have not dont ne major mods to any pieces of equptment and am a little skeptical about messing with my $350 gfx card

As far as I know, it does void warranty.

u c that doesnt really comfort me

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: ddviper

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: ddviper
does removing the stock hs/f void warrenty?

i also have not dont ne major mods to any pieces of equptment and am a little skeptical about messing with my $350 gfx card

As far as I know, it does void warranty.

u c that doesnt really comfort me

me neither, but the fact is, the card now runs cooler, and quieter.
As long as I have no prbs with the card (this might even prevent probs) then I'm happy.
But when I recently had weird probs. with my system, it kinda freaked me out to think that I would be out $500 Cdn (what I paid for the 6800GT) if it died.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: akira34

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Turin99
You can't really make direct comparisons between the ram on different cards unless they use the same exact chips from the same manufacturer. Even then you can get batch differences.

ATI uses Samsung GDDR3 running FASTER than the 6800GT's memory. Almost all of the 6800GTs I've seen online used, you guessed it, Samsung GDDR3 memory.

Really now... Where did you see THAT??? I ask, because I looked up the spec's for ATI's x800 Pro and compared that to the eVGA 6800GT that I HAVE... Guess what... The ATI card uses DDR3, 450MHz (900MHz DDR) memory while the 6800GT uses 500MHz (1GHz DDR) memory... Looking at mine, it's 501/1002MHz...

That was just with FAST looking/checking with the manufacturer's version (the official, non-overcocked) speeds. I'm sure, IF I overcocked my card, I could get even higher numbers than that.

As far as installing the Acrtic Cooling unit goes, the hardest part is pulling the screws holding the old heatsink and fan on the card. The rest is a snap, IF you can follow the provided instructions.

Look at the X800XT or even the PE. ALL 6800GT and Ultra cards use GDDR3 also. You're not exactly coming across as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

[Spike]

Well, I just installed it and it was a breeze. Removing my mobo and redoing the AS 5 on my CPU HSF was WAY harder than installing the NV Silencer. My initial impressions are mixed, my temps have not dropped at all for idle but the noise is less. My temps were pretty low before (52-54c) so the fact that I am at the same spot now is not really a suprise. I have not put the card under load yet so I don't know the improvement there, but I will soon.

On the flip side, my CPU is running 3 degrees hotter idle than it's all-ready accelerated temp. Now I am idling at 45.5c! Before I decided to switch fans I was idling at 34-36... I wish I had never messed with it. I just hope after the "burn in" period my temps will drop to at least 40-42c idle. Of course, some of this could be the fact that the outside temps went from ~20 F to 55-60F in just a few days and my interior case temps went from 22-24 up to 27-28.

Anyway, thanks for the advice. Installation of the cooler was a breeze, especially since I have a BFG 6800GT and they only use 4 mounting screws unlike some of the other coolers. I did use the ceramiqe on the chips and AS 5 on the core, but thats just because I had a bunch and had no use for it. I will let y'all know how my temps change as the AS 5 on the GPU and CPU burns in.

-spike

 

[akira34]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: akira34

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Turin99
You can't really make direct comparisons between the ram on different cards unless they use the same exact chips from the same manufacturer. Even then you can get batch differences.

ATI uses Samsung GDDR3 running FASTER than the 6800GT's memory. Almost all of the 6800GTs I've seen online used, you guessed it, Samsung GDDR3 memory.

Really now... Where did you see THAT??? I ask, because I looked up the spec's for ATI's x800 Pro and compared that to the eVGA 6800GT that I HAVE... Guess what... The ATI card uses DDR3, 450MHz (900MHz DDR) memory while the 6800GT uses 500MHz (1GHz DDR) memory... Looking at mine, it's 501/1002MHz...

That was just with FAST looking/checking with the manufacturer's version (the official, non-overcocked) speeds. I'm sure, IF I overcocked my card, I could get even higher numbers than that.

As far as installing the Acrtic Cooling unit goes, the hardest part is pulling the screws holding the old heatsink and fan on the card. The rest is a snap, IF you can follow the provided instructions.

Look at the X800XT or even the PE. ALL 6800GT and Ultra cards use GDDR3 also. You're not exactly coming across as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

How about you compare the same level cards?? Comparing a 6800GT to an X800XT is NOT the same level cards. The x800XT would be compared to a 6800ULTRA... The Ultra and Ultra EE both use faster and faster memory...

Before you start slinging comments about quality of edge, make sure you're comparing steak knives not cleavers to butter knives...

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: akira34

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: akira34

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Turin99
You can't really make direct comparisons between the ram on different cards unless they use the same exact chips from the same manufacturer. Even then you can get batch differences.

ATI uses Samsung GDDR3 running FASTER than the 6800GT's memory. Almost all of the 6800GTs I've seen online used, you guessed it, Samsung GDDR3 memory.

Really now... Where did you see THAT??? I ask, because I looked up the spec's for ATI's x800 Pro and compared that to the eVGA 6800GT that I HAVE... Guess what... The ATI card uses DDR3, 450MHz (900MHz DDR) memory while the 6800GT uses 500MHz (1GHz DDR) memory... Looking at mine, it's 501/1002MHz...

That was just with FAST looking/checking with the manufacturer's version (the official, non-overcocked) speeds. I'm sure, IF I overcocked my card, I could get even higher numbers than that.

As far as installing the Acrtic Cooling unit goes, the hardest part is pulling the screws holding the old heatsink and fan on the card. The rest is a snap, IF you can follow the provided instructions.

Look at the X800XT or even the PE. ALL 6800GT and Ultra cards use GDDR3 also. You're not exactly coming across as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

How about you compare the same level cards?? Comparing a 6800GT to an X800XT is NOT the same level cards. The x800XT would be compared to a 6800ULTRA... The Ultra and Ultra EE both use faster and faster memory...

Before you start slinging comments about quality of edge, make sure you're comparing steak knives not cleavers to butter knives...

Lets look at the prices of these cards.

$500
X800XT PE
6800 Ultra

$400
X800XT
6800GT

If that doesn't work for you look at some benchmarks.

 

[dgevert]

From NewEgg

Leadtek 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz"
Chaintech 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1GHz"
MSi 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz"
Albatron 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz"
XFX 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz"
AOpen 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz"
Asus 6800 GT: "Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1000MHz"

I assume by now that the point has been made...only one 6800 GT that I know of uses regular DDR, and that's Asus's weird $300 6800 GT that only has 128 MB of RAM.