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Sunny129

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so are these things gonna do anything for the Ti series, or are they just optimized for the FX series?
 
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Rage187

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That just means the drivers will work for older cards.

You will not see any improvements in dx9 though.
 
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yeah i was just wondering if its worth installing...no sense in doing that when my det 43.45 drivers perform great and there's no improvements for my Ti4200 with the new ones.
 
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I still say the best driver release in recent memory was the Det 41.09s. Very compatible, best performance, IQ is good...

I'll check out the 51s, and see what I think. Can't hurt.
 
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They boosted my AquaMark score from 36,548 with the 44.71's to 49,130 but the IQ degradation is easily noticable :brokenheart: The other thing is the new Det's boosted my CPU score from 4578 to 8192, WTF is that all about??? :confused:
 
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Rage187

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They opened up the other pipe.


If I lose a little IQ but gain a whole hell of alot of performance, I'm gonna be happy.
 
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RogerAdam

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
They boosted my AquaMark score from 36,548 with the 44.71's to 49,130 but the IQ degradation is easily noticable :brokenheart: The other thing is the new Det's boosted my CPU score from 4578 to 8192, WTF is that all about??? :confused:
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LOL!

NVidia is now pulling these drivers as they "weren't meant for the public".

Seems this was an AquaMark driver leak, get the numbers up, and not releasing them to the public may be their way of covering their @$$ to the scrutiny these drivers would recieve (and have). 44.03 to 45.23 represented something like a 100% performance boost (w/obvious cheats), the 51.75 "preview" driver you all saw represented another major "dx9 (LOL) boost", boy they're really trying to put one over on everyone, of course they're being exposed maybe they're hoping that brand loyal blinded enthusiasts will cloud up perspective for them.

 
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Genx87

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Did you actually see any of the cheats in action?

A lot of it looks like a gamma problem. Nothing that is the end of the world. The worst I saw was colors were darker than intended. Whoopie do. Image degradation doesnt seem to be the problem. The problem looks more like a problem with the drivers outputting the wrong color or a darker version of the color.

I would wait till these go live before jumping on the bash anything Nvidia bandwagon.
 
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Did you actually see any of the cheats in action?

A lot of it looks like a gamma problem. Nothing that is the end of the world. The worst I saw was colors were darker than intended. Whoopie do. Image degradation doesnt seem to be the problem. The problem looks more like a problem with the drivers outputting the wrong color or a darker version of the color.

I would wait till these go live before jumping on the bash anything Nvidia bandwagon.
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Yes - what you saw, HOWEVER so did game developers. When saving a screenshot of AM3 there SHOULD be a loss of quality on cards running DX9 precision (ie FP24bit or better), nothing too major but some missing textures, as well as some other anomalies, a glitch in the screen capture capability was discovered by a DEVELOPER (read threads over at NVnews and Beyond3d), and him as well as other developers have indeed concluded that NVidia drivers (other than 44.03) are using lower precision (FP16 possibly even FX12!) and shader replacements, sorry but I'd take the word of an ISV who writes to DX9 over ANYONE who just happens to buy video cards and say they are better. ;)

FYI, after the developers started to point out the disparity WITHIN Nvidia's drivers 44.03 vs 45.23 vs 51.75, NVidia all of a sudden has to pull these drivers because "they're not ready" (yes you can read NVidia's OWN statement about this), it was a PR move to get the numbers at all costs, plain and simple.

 
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I just uninstalled those buggy POS drivers, they were even causing browser lock-ups when I opened multiple windows :disgust:
 
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Originally posted by: Rage187
They opened up the other pipe.


If I lose a little IQ but gain a whole hell of alot of performance, I'm gonna be happy.
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What on earth are you talking about? What other pipe? Don't tell me you're following that nonsense of "dual channel shader rendering" and all that other made-up crap being spread. The "2" in "4x2" (a simplified description of the NV3x's design) refers to texturing (2 textures per pixel, 4 pixels per clock).

For those who want a good laugh, here's an exerpt from a post on the Hardforum:

"ATI utilizes a 8x1 pixel shader path, with one path at 8 bits. Nvidia, on the other hand, uses a 4x2 path with two paths each 4 bits wide. Currently, any game using PS 2.0 with the FX cards is only accessing shaders at 4x1, due to driver and DX9b limitations (we will see DX9c soon, mark my words) and so, the DX9 games and 45:23 driver is effectively ignoring the second PS 2.0 path."

Link

Unbelievable FUD.

Edit: Made the link linkable. :)



 
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