Nutrition Bill failed...

[DAPUNISHER]

And yet for decades schools have graduated plenty of healthy, successful kids that went on to have healthy, successful lives. The food isn't so much the issue as the sedimentary lifestyles of people today. Playing video games, and surfing the web have replaced hide and seek, and playing sports.

the word you wanted was sedentary. However, comparing their lifestyles to a type of rock works pretty well too.

 

[mchammer187]

Gotta keep the kids fat and stupid so they grow into fat and stupid adults. Who the Hell makes any money off of smart healthy people?

the taxpayer does

 

[ElFenix]

My former high school (White Bear Lake Area HS in Minnesota) has almost no deep fried foods in the cafeteria. If you want to buy something unhealthy at the snack bar, it most likely isn't there. If it is, you need to buy a healthy item to go along with it.

There are no non-diet sodas available on campus (even in the teacher's lounge!). Schools can get healthy, it is just with a lot of resistance from the students and their parents.

need to get rid of diet cokes. more and more studies are coming out showing how terrible those things are (yay reduced kidney function!).

*a* coke isn't a problem. a 2 liter a day sitting on your ass playing CoD on your 360 all afternoon is.

 

[Throckmorton]

need to get rid of diet cokes. more and more studies are coming out showing how terrible those things are (yay reduced kidney function!).

*a* coke isn't a problem. a 2 liter a day sitting on your ass playing CoD on your 360 all afternoon is.

What about sucralose?

 

[ElFenix]

What about sucralose?

no idea, the research statistician i know didn't mention anything about it
(apparently decreased kidney function is observed in 10% of the population and in heavy diet coke drinkers that figure is 20%... big increase)

 

[JACKHAMMER]

need to get rid of diet cokes. more and more studies are coming out showing how terrible those things are (yay reduced kidney function!).

Eh???

"...researchers did not find an elevated risk for men, or for people who drink diet soda, said lead researcher David Shoham of Loyola University Health System"

http://www.loyolamedicine.org/News/...ease_detail.cfm?var_news_release_id=973440920

 

[hal2kilo]

My liberalism all started when my conservatives parents had me eating those subsidised lunchs for $2.70 a week. If they only knew. My favorites were tuna boats and meat lolipops.

After that it was my Methodist Suday School teachers. You know that social justice thing.

Oh crap I think I should be in the Liberalism making men less manly thread, I'm so confused.

 

[ElFenix]

Eh???

"...researchers did not find an elevated risk for men, or for people who drink diet soda, said lead researcher David Shoham of Loyola University Health System"

http://www.loyolamedicine.org/News/...ease_detail.cfm?var_news_release_id=973440920

interesting... she said the docs had all quit drinking diet cokes, not cokes in general. wouldn't be the first time docs misread a study, though. i'll email and find out

 

[PingSpike]

What the F is a "sedimentary lifestyle"? Is that where you move so little you eventually morph into sandstone?

Or is this some kind of "clever" internet word twist?

I thought we were just repeating something George Bush said, like "Moran" from that picture of a guy with a sign.

Did he not say that? It just sounds like something he would have said.

 

[nonlnear]

I thought we were just repeating something George Bush said, like "Moran" from that picture of a guy with a sign.

Did he not say that? It just sounds like something he would have said.

I don't know if dubya said it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he had. I just repeated xjohnx's malapropism for fun and spiced it up with another.

 

[ElFenix]

interesting... she said the docs had all quit drinking diet cokes, not cokes in general. wouldn't be the first time docs misread a study, though. i'll email and find out

ok i emailed and asked and this is what she said:

Err, no, that's not the same study. That's a previous study that only
found a significant association with albuminuria and sodas. The recent
study (although only done in a female nurse popluation) found twice
the risk of significant eGFR decline (>30% over 10 years) in those who
drink 2 or more diet sodas per day. But no association with those who
drink regular sodas or those who drink 1 or less diet sodas per day.

 

[rudder]

And yet for decades schools have graduated plenty of healthy, successful kids that went on to have healthy, successful lives. The food isn't so much the issue as the sedimentary lifestyles of people today. Playing video games, and surfing the web have replaced hide and seek, and playing sports.

Exactly. Rice is a staple food in many countries... and unless it is vitamin fortified probably not much healthier than the cardboard pizza that is served in schools. Kids just need to feel full and they will be good to go. the food is crap at public schools.

God forbid parents actually pack their kids lunches and put a little healthier fare in there.

I suppose we can force every school to serve fresh free-range chicken, organic fruits and vegetables, soy milk etc... but I bet most districts are fine with the tax rates they have now.

 

[OutHouse]

good, stupid bill anyway. just more government red tape and bullshit.

we have never bought our kids a hot lunch at school. we have always packed them their lunch. my oldest is 17 and refuses to eat the hot lunches served at the high school. in fact none of my kds would eat the food served that the Jr high or elementary school. they come home and tell us "lol hey dad tommy was making his chicken nugget bounce like a basketball today at lunch it was so disgusting!!!"

 

[Homerboy]

I (well Ok, my wife) packs our kids' lunches every day. Ta hell if I'm going to feed them that slop at the public school. I'll feed that to them at home for dinner!!

 

[BeauJangles]

I suppose we can force every school to serve fresh free-range chicken, organic fruits and vegetables, soy milk etc... but I bet most districts are fine with the tax rates they have now.

Right, but isn't one of the fundamental problems in our food supply that the government continually subsidizes 'bad' calories? When bags of chips and processed foods and infinitely cheaper than real food, we have a major issue. Forcing schools to serve more nutritional food is only part of the battle -- people will follow their wallets in the end.

 

[OutHouse]

It's the school's role to NOT counteract good nutrition training by endorsing and serving junk food.

It's the parents' job to teach kids to have safe sex right? So what if schools started endorsing the "pull out method"?

why?

 

[JACKHAMMER]

ok i emailed and asked and this is what she said:

Hmm thanks. I guess we have conflicting data, that never happens with research I'll continue drinking my Diet Coke as I love it, and the data is seemingly inconclusive. Of course, I still eat real eggs too

 

[JACKHAMMER]

DP