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Number of Republicans reaches record high

monovillage

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Number of Republicans in America Reaches Record High
Saturday, September 01, 2012

After falling for two straight months, the number of Americans who consider themselves Republicans jumped nearly three points in August.

During August, 37.6% of Americans considered themselves Republicans. That’s up from 34.9% in July and 35.4% in June. It’s also the largest number of Republicans ever recorded by Rasmussen Report since monthly tracking began in November 2002. The previous peak for the GOP was 37.3% in September 2004.
This is probably the best news for this country that I've seen for weeks. It's especially important in the Senate and House races. It looks like the elections in 2012 may be very good ones for America.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
 

Moonbeam

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The human mind becomes more conservative under the influence of anything that suppresses reason. Such things as alcohol, fear, social insecurity, recession, war, high crime rates, all cause a favorable climate for paranoid unreasoned thinking. The drum roll coming from republican circles about the sky falling because of Obama sells well to folk with no internal resistances to insanity.
 

Moonbeam

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BREAKING NEWS! There are more fucking idiots alive than before!
Either that or they are becoming more aware they are fucking idiots because the science says the more aware they become of any truth pointing to the fact they live in an alternate reality, the more certain they become of it's reality, and the smarter they are the truer this is.
 

EagleKeeper

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Was there some other recent survey that stated only liberals could look at facts and be logical.
 

Dulanic

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Either that or they are becoming more aware they are fucking idiots because the science says the more aware they become of any truth pointing to the fact they live in an alternate reality, the more certain they become of it's reality, and the smarter they are the truer this is.
Republicans don't believe is science, that can't be it.
 

Double Trouble

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BREAKING NEWS! There are more fucking idiots alive than before!
Based on your post, we know there's at least one: you.

Back on topic, I believe this might be part of the post convention bounce, just like the last time there was a spike like this (Sept 2004).
 

EagleKeeper

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I find it interesting that Democrats are always so fast to call Republicans idiots. Especially with how often they lose to the party of "idiots".
Since Roosevelt, they have had only ONE two term elected president.

60 years!
 

Rainsford

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I'm not sure this poll means what monovillage thinks it means. While the number of people who identify as Republican should play a factor in election results, the effect is indirect and likely doesn't line up perfectly. The actual election polls don't show a Republican advantage in the Presidential race for example (quite the opposite, in fact).

I mean first of all, the number of Republicans is up 2.7% since last month...probably not composed of the most die hard faction of the party, I would think. Second, not everyone who identifies one way votes across the board that way (or votes at all, for that matter). And the poll doesn't seem to break down WHERE there are more people who consider themselves Republican. If it's people in areas that lean Republican already, it will have basically no election impact.

I could be wrong, of course, but looking at the party ID poll doesn't seem like a good way to predict election results. Look at 2010, where Republicans made big gains in congress. At this point in the election cycle, Dems had a 1.2% party ID lead, a lead that went to 2.9% by the election, and they still lost a lot of races. On the other hand, the 2008 elections say big (5.7 to 7.1) leads by the Dems leading up to the election, and they came away big winners (2006 went much the same way). 2004, on the other hand, saw Dems with a lead in party ID again, and they lost.

In fact, looking at the polling history of party ID shows Dems had a lead from January 2004 through the 2010 elections and they managed to "win" in half those elections. Now you could say that the Republicans just overcame being unpopular, or maybe the party ID poll just isn't a very good election predictor.
 

Rainsford

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So your answer was no, thanks.
That's the problem with trying to read too much into party ID, not everyone is as hyper-partisan as you. The poll question isn't "Do you pass the monovillage Republican purity test", it's "Do YOU consider yourself a Republican". People get put in the yes column even if their answer is "Yes, I generally consider myself a Republican, but many of the modern crop of Republican politicians are hypocritical fringe lunatics who scare the crap out of me and are ruining my party, and I wouldn't vote for them even if Obama WAS a socialist." In fact I know several people who would probably answer that way.
 

diesbudt

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That's the problem with trying to read too much into party ID, not everyone is as hyper-partisan as you. The poll question isn't "Do you pass the monovillage Republican purity test", it's "Do YOU consider yourself a Republican". People get put in the yes column even if their answer is "Yes, I generally consider myself a Republican, but many of the modern crop of Republican politicians are hypocritical fringe lunatics who scare the crap out of me and are ruining my party, and I wouldn't vote for them even if Obama WAS a socialist." In fact I know several people who would probably answer that way.
Very true.

I also know people who like democrats social issue stance more and republican economic stance more in the government and would consider themselves republicans. Even though they are more middle of the road.
 

bignateyk

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That's the problem with trying to read too much into party ID, not everyone is as hyper-partisan as you. The poll question isn't "Do you pass the monovillage Republican purity test", it's "Do YOU consider yourself a Republican". People get put in the yes column even if their answer is "Yes, I generally consider myself a Republican, but many of the modern crop of Republican politicians are hypocritical fringe lunatics who scare the crap out of me and are ruining my party, and I wouldn't vote for them even if Obama WAS a socialist." In fact I know several people who would probably answer that way.
You pretty much just summed up my views
 

monovillage

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I'm not sure this poll means what monovillage thinks it means. While the number of people who identify as Republican should play a factor in election results, the effect is indirect and likely doesn't line up perfectly. The actual election polls don't show a Republican advantage in the Presidential race for example (quite the opposite, in fact).

I mean first of all, the number of Republicans is up 2.7% since last month...probably not composed of the most die hard faction of the party, I would think. Second, not everyone who identifies one way votes across the board that way (or votes at all, for that matter). And the poll doesn't seem to break down WHERE there are more people who consider themselves Republican. If it's people in areas that lean Republican already, it will have basically no election impact.

I could be wrong, of course, but looking at the party ID poll doesn't seem like a good way to predict election results. Look at 2010, where Republicans made big gains in congress. At this point in the election cycle, Dems had a 1.2% party ID lead, a lead that went to 2.9% by the election, and they still lost a lot of races. On the other hand, the 2008 elections say big (5.7 to 7.1) leads by the Dems leading up to the election, and they came away big winners (2006 went much the same way). 2004, on the other hand, saw Dems with a lead in party ID again, and they lost.

In fact, looking at the polling history of party ID shows Dems had a lead from January 2004 through the 2010 elections and they managed to "win" in half those elections. Now you could say that the Republicans just overcame being unpopular, or maybe the party ID poll just isn't a very good election predictor.
So you are saying that having a record high number of people that self identify as Republicans is a good thing for Democrats.

Got that, good call.
 

kage69

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Usually this kind of news would make me feel "meh..."

Having seen the GOP do away with so much of their sanity and credibility, this news strikes me as depressing as hearing that the high school drop out rate has reached an all time high.

A better story would be "Voters from both sides ditch party affiliation in record numbers and decide to judge the issues on their own merit instead of partisan dogma."
 

monovillage

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That's the problem with trying to read too much into party ID, not everyone is as hyper-partisan as you. The poll question isn't "Do you pass the monovillage Republican purity test", it's "Do YOU consider yourself a Republican". People get put in the yes column even if their answer is "Yes, I generally consider myself a Republican, but many of the modern crop of Republican politicians are hypocritical fringe lunatics who scare the crap out of me and are ruining my party, and I wouldn't vote for them even if Obama WAS a socialist." In fact I know several people who would probably answer that way.
I disagree, I find that you are a hyper-partisan Democrat that is less than honest about it. I've stated this a number of times and you continue to prove me right.
 

diesbudt

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Usually this kind of news would make me feel "meh..."

Having seen the GOP do away with so much of their sanity and credibility, this news strikes me as depressing as hearing that the high school drop out rate has reached an all time high.

A better story would be "Voters from both sides ditch party affiliation in record numbers and decide to judge the issues on their own merit instead of partisan dogma."
I dream of a timeframe where this will actually happen.
 

Smoblikat

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This is probably the best news for this country that I've seen for weeks. It's especially important in the Senate and House races. It looks like the elections in 2012 may be very good ones for America.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
I sincerely hope youre joking, NOTHING good will come of this election. Our choice is the lesser of two very great evils, sadly that means Romney. Basically prepare to be anally ravenged by big buisness.
 

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