Nuclear testing expected to have caused 15,000 deaths by cancer (w/ map)

[wyvrn]

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Scientists estimate 15,000 deaths due to nuclear testing world-wide, and estimate up to 20,000 more. So, was the testing and development of nuclear weapons worth it?

 

[Hammer]

I question those numbers since most of it was underground.

 

[wyvrn]

<< The study shows that far more fallout than previously known reached the USA from nuclear tests in the former Soviet Union and on several Pacific islands used for U.S. and British exercises. It also finds that fallout from scores of U.S. trials at the Nevada Test Site spread substantial amounts of radioactivity across broad swaths of the country. When fallout from all tests, domestic and foreign, is taken together, no U.S. resident born after 1951 escaped exposure, the study says. >>






<< The data show that global fallout blanketed much of the USA, with heavy pockets in Iowa, Tennessee, California, Oregon, Washington and Idaho. Fallout from the Nevada tests settled more in the mountain and Midwest states, including Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and Missouri. The study measures exposure to an array of fallout elements based on county of residence, birth date and factors such as consumption of foods that absorb fallout >>

 

[Czar]

somehow I'm not all that surprised 🙁

 

[Sir Fredrick]

shit

 

[Capn]

"So, was the testing and development of nuclear weapons worth it?"

I'd have to say so. I think without MAD the cold war could've definitely turned hot.

Another argument would be that far more than 15k lives would have been lost if the U.S. had invaded mainland Japan.

If I could remove all the weapons of mass destruction in the world I think I might, but even if the U.S. had not developed nuclear weapons our enemies would have.

 

[notfred]

"the highest levels levels of extimated exposure - the red and orange areas on this map - would be equal to one chest X-ray per yer"

Out of the entire US, the red and orange areas maybe make up the same area as New York State. Everywhere else, it's less than that. Oh no, sounds scary, a chest X-ray.

 

[Texmaster]

<< somehow I'm not all that surprised 🙁 >>



Don't believe it jjust becase you want to Czar. Alothough it is interesting, there is no way for these scientists to conclusivly say the nuclear testing is where these cancers are from.

My uncle and 5 other workers got cancer from their workplace, all the same cancer and all working around the same eqipment and even then, it could not be proven beyond a doubt where it came from.

 

[Czar]

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<< somehow I'm not all that surprised 🙁 >>



Don't believe it jjust becase you want to Czar. Alothough it is interesting, there is no way for these scientists to conclusivly say the nuclear testing is where these cancers are from.

My uncle and 5 other workers got cancer from their workplace, all the same cancer and all working around the same eqipment and even then, it could not be proven beyond a doubt where it came from. >>


I know that, cancer can be caused by just about anything but we can all agree on that nuclear testing around your home is almost a garanteed way of getting cancer. Just compare Islands in the pacific where there have been alot of nuclear tests to other places in the world, you would be surprised. Also that cancer can not just be caused by nuclear testing, look at people in Greenland, cancer rates there are much higher than in any country in the north atlandic ocean, reason for that is their food. They eat alot of fat and fat in animals is one of the highest density part of the body containing radioactive chemicals.

well.. off to buy cheep computer books

 

[Texmaster]

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<< somehow I'm not all that surprised 🙁 >>



Don't believe it jjust becase you want to Czar. Alothough it is interesting, there is no way for these scientists to conclusivly say the nuclear testing is where these cancers are from.

My uncle and 5 other workers got cancer from their workplace, all the same cancer and all working around the same eqipment and even then, it could not be proven beyond a doubt where it came from. >>


I know that, cancer can be caused by just about anything but we can all agree on that nuclear testing around your home is almost a garanteed way of getting cancer. Just compare Islands in the pacific where there have been alot of nuclear tests to other places in the world, you would be surprised. Also that cancer can not just be caused by nuclear testing, look at people in Greenland, cancer rates there are much higher than in any country in the north atlandic ocean, reason for that is their food. They eat alot of fat and fat in animals is one of the highest density part of the body containing radioactive chemicals.

well.. off to buy cheep computer books >>



Agreed.

And see if they got the Cliff notes 😀

 

[tcsenter]

It oddly went from 800 additional cases of cancer every year to 15,000 "deaths"? 15,000 deaths from 1951 to present, that's roughly 300 deaths annually. I would say it was probably worth it, though undoubtedly there were a few dozen tests that went 'wrong' and were probably responsible for most of the unintended radiation/fallout exposures. The vast majority of detonations and tests were safe.

 

[wyvrn]

<< "the highest levels levels of extimated exposure - the red and orange areas on this map - would be equal to one chest X-ray per yer"

Out of the entire US, the red and orange areas maybe make up the same area as New York State. Everywhere else, it's less than that. Oh no, sounds scary, a chest X-ray. >>



Any doctor will tell you that your body has a limited amount of radiation it can take. Radiation sticks around after the test is done. When my mother had cancer, the first treatment was to locally radiate the area to kill any cancer cells. Even though the radiation was very localized and exact (unlike a full bore chest x-ray), she could only have so much of it. So moral of the story is, radiation has a very profound impact on the body long-term after exposure if the exposure is significant. And I find it interesting that the article points out the radiation elements moving around the world. Remember the Chernobyl accident, radiation poisoning still being documented far from the actual meltdown.