NTSB says that the plug door on the Boeing 737 MAX that blew out was missing the 4 bolts

[Puffnstuff]

When they initially said that they couldn't locate the bolts there was lots of speculation that this would be the case but today its official. I don't need a tin foil hat to see the massive lawsuit that is coming over this one.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/business/ntsb-boeing-alaska-door-plug-blowout-faa/index.html

 

[Pens1566]

Bad time to hold Boeing stock ...

 

[iRONic]

JFC!

FAA has designated manufacturers representatives who are certified to let these airplanes go out the door and take passengers for revenue. After the two crashes you still didn't get this shit at Boeing right, FAA?!

And my other WTaf… you have pictures of the actual door that blew out?!?!? Several flights prior to the incident?!?!?!

Goddamn…

 

[brycejones]

Not sure about a massive lawsuit since there were no deaths or even significant injuries. But the fact the bolts were missing and Boeing reinstalled the plug on the line after removing speaks volumes about the decline in Boeing’s quality culture and the potential future risk to the company.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Even though nobody was killed when the door went the passengers were traumatized by the experience so negligence is high. Shareholders have lost value over incidents like this one so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for them to sue over this.

Then the other issue with the 50 fuselages under construction with misdrilled holes that was exposed this week will all have an impact on the company. Its definitely a very tumultuous time for Boeing.

 

[brycejones]

Even though nobody was killed when the door went the passengers were traumatized by the experience so negligence is high. Shareholders have lost value over incidents like this one so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for them to sue over this.

Then the other issue with the 50 fuselages under construction with misdrilled holes that was exposed this week will all have an impact on the company. Its definitely a very tumultuous time for Boeing.

People on that plane are not getting millions or hundreds of thousands dollars each, there will not be a "massive" award for the door incident to the passengers.

 

[Paratus]

Look the MBAs in charge of Boeing have been doing everything in their power to meet Boeings mission. They moved headquarters twice to be closer to their lobbying efforts. They’ve closed union lines to improve margins.

Despite these heroic efforts they’ve lost like $21B in market cap.

Maybe it’s time for them to really dig deep and layoff design, manufacturing and safety folks across the board.

The share price will have to fly after that!

 

[brycejones]

Look the MBAs in charge of Boeing have been doing everything in their power to meet Boeings mission. They moved headquarters twice to be closer to their lobbying efforts. They’ve closed union lines to improve margins.

Despite these heroic efforts they’ve lost like $21B in market cap.

Maybe it’s time for them to really dig deep and layoff design, manufacturing and safety folks across the board.

The share price will have to fly after that!

Let's not forget that Spirit Aerospace (the company that screwed up the holes on 50 planes) exists because Boeing decided to pull a GM and spin off part of it's manufacturing into a separate company it would then buy parts from at a supposedly lower cost than doing the work in house with no loss in quality.

 

[skyking]

Frequently aircraft have to undergo weight reduction programs.
Boeing's weight reduction program needs to start at the top.

 

[Amol S.]

I will be honest here, I think this is Cessna's golden opportunity to manufacture commercial aircrafts and compete with Boeing. Cessna already has the experience when it comes to jet aircrafts. Boeing is probably laid back because they never had a domestic competitor since the time MD went defunct.

 

[Indus]

I will be honest here, I think this is Cessna's golden opportunity to manufacture commercial aircrafts and compete with Boeing. Cessna already has the experience when it comes to jet aircrafts. Boeing is probably laid back because they never had a domestic competitor since the time MD went defunct.

Lockheed too honestly!

They had a really good plane in the Tri-Star that pilots loved but just couldn't compete at the time.

 

[HomerJS]

I will be honest here, I think this is Cessna's golden opportunity to manufacture commercial aircrafts and compete with Boeing. Cessna already has the experience when it comes to jet aircrafts. Boeing is probably laid back because they never had a domestic competitor since the time MD went defunct.

As a fan of commercial planes all my life I’m really disappointed in Boeing. They’ve always been the gold standard. I also don’t like the idea of American carriers going to Airbus because of the European government involvement.

Airlines are probably hesitant on AB because of the massive training expense and the long adjustment. If they take that plunge Boeing is in even more serious trouble

I recommend the Netflix doc on the 737 Max 8 crashes called Downfall

 

[HomerJS]

Lockheed too honestly!

They had a really good plane in the Tri-Star that pilots loved but just couldn't compete at the time.

I would have thought Lockheed had a chance when DC 10s started crashing

 

[HomerJS]

Perhaps the answer is a public-private partner to revive another aircraft manufacturer. Aka American version of Airbus. Might be good for Boeing

 

[Puffnstuff]

Lockheed needs to build a stealth liner for the 21st century complete with missile defense systems. Boeing desperately needs domestic competition to force them out of complacency.

 

[hal2kilo]

When they initially said that they couldn't locate the bolts there was lots of speculation that this would be the case but today its official. I don't need a tin foil hat to see the massive lawsuit that is coming over this one.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/business/ntsb-boeing-alaska-door-plug-blowout-faa/index.html

Guess what else they are missing. Paper work on that plug! What a shit show. Sub contract out your work, then let them run amuck. But they got that stuff out of union Seattle.