nsa can't search its own emplyees emails

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PottedMeat

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http://www.propublica.org/article/nsa-says-it-cant-search-own-emails

I find it humorous that the agency that searches everyone elses emails 'doesn't have the technology' to search their own.

not really surprising

$$$$ goes to tech that expands its capabilities
token $ goes to providing info that may expose them to public criticism

they could point their tools at themselves but blah blah blah national security violation something something

Federal agencies’ public records offices are often underfunded
 

PingSpike

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Haven't they released statements (and even testified before congress?) that several things either didn't exist or didn't work this way only to have info leaks like a day later that that was a bullshit several times in the last few weeks/months? I guess there's no reason to stop with the deny everything approach though, there are no consequences when it doesn't work.
 

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Hilarious, and also completely unbelievable.

Tragic and completely believable, at least to me. There are many examples of how the government can't function because of its own bureaucracy. Look at the air traffic control system which was (and maybe still is, not sure) running on systems generations old. Not computer, but human.

The CIA and FBI were dealing with the same thing and again I'm not sure that's fixed.
 

mshan

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Google search for how much did NSA Trailblazer cost -> http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2...el-hayden-spending-1b-to-do-what-3m-could-do/

Thomas Drake, the NSA whistleblower, was on 60 Minutes this evening. I’ll have more to say about his appearance and case going forward, but I just wanted to highlight a critical detail revealed by 60 Minutes: the relative cost of Trailblazer–the SAIC implemented program Michael Hayden championed–and ThinThread–the program Drake and others claim was more effective and had privacy protections.

One of them was Lieutenant General Michael Hayden, the head of the agency: he wanted to transform the agency and launched a massive modernization program, code named: “Trailblazer.” It was supposed to do what Thin Thread did, and more.

Trailblazer would be the NSA’s biggest project. Hayden’s philosophy was to let private industry do the job. Enormous deals were signed with defense contractors. [Bill] Binney’s Thin Thread program cost $3 million; Trailblazer would run more than $1 billion and take years to develop.

“Do you have any idea why General Hayden decided to go with Trailblazer as opposed to Thin Thread, which already existed?” Pelley asked.

“I believe he was convinced by others that going with a large-scale, industrial strength solution was the approach that NSA needed to take. You can’t really understand why they would make that kind of a decision without understanding the culture of NSA,” Drake said.

Asked to elaborate, Drake said, “Careers are built on projects and programs. The bigger, the better their career.” [my emphasis]

So Drake was complaining about a program that cost 300 times as much as the one he championed (ultimately, Trailblazer cost $1.2 billion, so actually 400 times as much). It’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. Trailblazer, according to a government filing, worked across more platforms. ThinThread, according to a Siobhan Gorman story, had additional functionality, including privacy protections.

But still, Drake complained about a program that did what ThinThread did–at 300 to 400 times the cost.

As one of the other NSA employees who whistleblew about Trailblazer, J. Kirk Wiebe, explains,

“How does a man see 9/11 happened, know that some part of it is due to corruption and mismanagement and sleep at night. How does a man do that? He obviously couldn’t,” Wiebe told Pelley.

Yet the government wants to put Drake in jail for 35 years because he tried to make sure incompetence that led to 9/11 doesn’t continue.






--> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...istleblower-nsa-officials-roundtable/2428809/

(6:10 mark on video; Bush Cheney administration was more focused on getting as much money out the door to their crony capitalist friends post 9/11, not looking at what was effective or cost - effective, and compromised national security for about 5 years as a result) Chinese are great crony capitalists, but at least they are competent at what they do...

Haydn now apparently works for Chertoff's lobbying firm in D. C. (Chertoff was Department of Homeland Security Chief. DHS has gone from costing $20 billion originally to $60 billion now).
 
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