NPR: Covid deaths far higher in Pro-trump counties

[Roger Wilco]

Will this meaningfully affect the electoral landscape?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

“In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth”

 

[SmCaudata]

Will this meaningfully affect the electoral landscape?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

“In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth”

The thing is, this will simply solidify the rural counties support for conservatives. The see lockdowns, inflation, stagnant wages, etc as the fault of dems. They can't comprehend that it is republican policies that are the root of their misfortunes. Fox and like propaganda has worked amazingly well.

As to election outcomes, fierce gerrymandering means that dems need about 2/3 of the vote in a state to even have a majority in state and national houses. If dems get a 10% vote margin, it is likely Republicans control either the state house or senate.

Basically, conservative deaths just mean their votes have more weight than they used to, nothing meaningful will come of it unfortunately

In an ideal world, the electorate could actually obtain and process data independently, rather than require spoonfeeding from the propoganda machines.

 

[TheVrolok]

Nope. Elections have absolutely nothing to do with reality.

 

[Roger Wilco]

The thing is, this will simply solidify the rural counties support for conservatives. The see lockdowns, inflation, stagnant wages, etc as the fault of dems. They can't comprehend that it is republican policies that are the root of their misfortunes. Fox and like propaganda has worked amazingly well.

As to election outcomes, fierce gerrymandering means that dems need about 2/3 of the vote in a state to even have a majority in state and national houses. If dems get a 10% vote margin, it is likely Republicans control either the state house or senate.

Basically, conservative deaths just mean their votes have more weight than they used to, nothing meaningful will come of it unfortunately

In an ideal world, the electorate could actually obtain and process data independently, rather than require spoonfeeding from the propoganda machines.

Even if you are right, this still seems consequential for the general election, no?

 

[nOOky]

Will this meaningfully affect the electoral landscape?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

“In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth”

We have to figure out how to get that ratio up, it should be much higher imho.

 

[Leymenaide]

Feels like Nero is fiddling while Rome Burns.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Will this meaningfully affect the electoral landscape?

“In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth”

I doubt it. Although we had almost a million die, once you divide it across 50 states, and once you adjust for the fact that COVID kills regardless of party affiliation (even if it does kill Republicans more due to not being vaccinated), I think the individual margin within any given state would be rather low compared to total state population. I think gerrymandering and vote suppression will be more than enough to offset any COVID related deaths on both state and federal level.

 

[nickqt]

Will this meaningfully affect the electoral landscape?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

An analysis by NPR shows that since the vaccine rollout, counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump have had more than twice the COVID mortality rates of those that voted for Joe Biden.

www.npr.org

“In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth”

We'll probably have a better picture come the second week of November 2022.

Until then, act as if it won't have any effect at all, because most likely, it won't.

 

[dullard]

I doubt it. Although we had almost a million die, once you divide it across 50 states, and once you adjust for the fact that COVID kills regardless of party affiliation (even if it does kill Republicans more due to not being vaccinated)

Look back at the 2020 election. The two closest states were Arizona and Georgia. Biden won Arizona 10,457 votes and Georgia by 11,779 votes. Using official numbers (which are probably on the low side), Covid has killed 22,761 in Arizona and 30,724 in Georgia. If we assume a 3:1 death by party result, then the numbers are just barely big enough to outweigh the election margins in those two states. But, ultimately it just shifts it slightly more into Biden's column and doesn't affect the results. And he ultimately didn't even need those two states to win.

If you look at the state that might swing differently if more GOP voters die, the closest one is North Carolina. Biden lost by 74,483 votes. But there have been just 18,880 official Covid deaths there. Even if all were GOP voters, it wouldn't have swung that state.

In order to have Covid deaths impact a presidential election, we would need a much closer election than what we just had. Covid will matter on congressional elections and local politics.

 

[Zorba]

I must say I've been wrong for years. I have been saying that humans stopped evolving. But looks like Darwin is finding a way. Too bad most of them probably started breeding as teenagers, so they already passed on their stupid genes.

 

[SmCaudata]

Even if you are right, this still seems consequential for the general election, no?

Possibly, and could be why Rs are really stepping up their disenfranchisement game.

 

[hal2kilo]

What do you expect when you use science to determine the answer? I'm going with my thought leader.

 

[K1052]

Death cult gonna death cult.

 

[dawp]

looking at the political make-up of the country it likely will not change anything.

lets say you have an area with 100 republicans and 50 democrats, if you lose 10 or 20 republicans it still going to be a strongly republican area.

 

[nakedfrog]

looking at the political make-up of the country it likely will not change anything.

lets say you have an area with 100 republicans and 50 democrats, if you lose 10 or 20 republicans it still going to be a strongly republican area.

Let's check back in after winter to see where the body count is at.

 

[Indus]

The most deadly variant is the the stockholm syndrome variant come election day.

 

[Roger Wilco]

With the onset of omicron, I think it is almost a certainty that the US hits 1,000,000 deaths in the near future.

Furthermore, reinfections will become more common, and presumably more severe and deadly. Antivaxxers who made it through round one may not make it through round two, or three, etc. Therefore, I think GOP voters will continue to disproportionately die in the coming years.

This is obviously conjecture at this point, but IMO this will not be insubstantial in the coming elections.

 

[vi edit]

It'll matter more in governor elections that are much more contested than most other positions. I think FL has now had more Covid deaths than DeSantis's win was by in 2016.

Beshear won Kentucky by 2000 votes, this likely ends up helping his reelection efforts. There may be some contested seats like the PA senate race that high death counts in rural PA could be meaningful.

 

[soundforbjt]

With the gerrymandering in red states it’ll take a lot of deaths to make up that advantage.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

With the gerrymandering in red states it’ll take a lot of deaths to make up that advantage.

Right, and they're being gerrymandered even worse for 2022.

 

[MtnMan]

Survival of the fittest isn't just about size and strength.

 

[pmv]

Presumably part of the reason it's killing more Republicans is simply because Republicans are older, and it is more likely to kill older people. OK, maybe another part of it is Republicans being more likely to refuse vaccines and mask-wearing, but probably age is the biggest factor.

And in that respect all it's doing is accelerating slightly something that was happening anyway - Boomer conservatives dying off.

 

[sandorski]

Many of them have been pointing their fingers at the African American community as being above average Vaccine Reluctant. Despite the fact that Republicans are even more Vaccine Reluctant than African Americans.

They keep showing everyone their true "heart", it might be time to believe them.