Nowdays ====== Violence, Sex.... what's wrong with American kids? or All the kids? or the whole society?

[j@cko]

What's the REAL cause of this?? School gun shooting... poeple become more and more unfriendly... and stuff like that.

well, violence is a big issue, and overly exposed nudity is also an issue but not as bad as violence though.

 

[mjquilly]

I don't know, what is wrong with kids? They seem OK to me. Compared to what kids?

 

[konichiwa]

Overly exposed nudity? 15 year old Joe and Jane want to have sex because they saw it on Dawson's Creek? Don't think so...

 

[mjquilly]

Are you saying kids are too violent, or that violence they see is causing the problem?

 

[j@cko]

I mean like in many Music Video. The reason I said this is I read an article, I think it was in Time or Newsweek, can't remember, regarding to this thing.
I am talking about RAP music video mostly.

 

[konichiwa]

Maybe kids should start talking in coherent sentences before worrying about anything else? :disgust:

 

[j@cko]

I think it's the violence they see is casusing problem. But where does that come from? Media mainly right? It's really lack of education I guess...

 

[mjquilly]

Well, you have to consider that 95% of anything you hear about people ages < 21 in the media is negative, because according to the media that's what we want to hear. Who cares that when I was in High School I volunteered with others to deliver meals to elderly people in the community once a month or so, or that thousands of kids who go to my college are raising TONS of money for kids with disablities next month in a Dance Marathon - or any of the other countless good deeds I see like that all the time. But look what's on the front page every day - Some kids vandalized the school, guns in school....

 

<< What's the REAL cause of this?? >>



The real cause of what?
You have not presented any issues.

 

[mjquilly]

<< The real cause of what? >>



Exactly. Please finish this sentance:

The problem with kids nowdays is that they _____________

 

[Elledan]

This is a good example of the result of excessive newsreports. Because mainly 'negative' news (shootings, murder, violence, accidents etc.) is considered to be news, you might get the idea that violence etc. is increasing.

This is inaccurate. Statistics show that the amount of violence hasn't increased dramatically. On the contrary, it has stayed about the same during the whole 20th century (World War I &amp; II were exceptions, of course).

Violence and exposed nudity have been proven to be fairly constant during history. There were of course peaks (during the Middle Ages (500-1500) things were much rougher than they're now and 'overly' exposed nudity exists since Humans learned to create paintings, which increased after the invention of the camera).

The only thing that has increased is the amount and accessibility of newsreports.

 

[gnognugs]

REPRESSION (corporate), is the biggest culprit in my opinion.

Not sensationalist media. They make us more aware of it, but they do not cause it.

Basically there is no one raising kids. (percentage wise).

This is just part of cultural evolution. When we place a higher value on children, they will turn out better. Right now they have no value, and in fact are becoming feared. But for now, let's blame them and EMINEM, like everyone of the reactionary asswipes that thinks it's not their problem. I'm sorry, this is everyone's problem, and it will not go away until we value children again.

 

[StageLeft]

The world isn't going to hell, its just that now you get to see things, whereas in the past you didn't so you were not as well aware of it. I blame it on the damn Quake games! HHA

 

[novon]

sex and violence in the media, they are practically raised by the media. However, good parenting overrides these, unfortunetly, that is what is lacking when kids act on what they see.

 

[Delusion2001]

in my opinion, drugs are playing some action

but most importantly of all it's the parents. usually depression leads kids to do such things, and the parents don't notice, and if they do, they don't do anything about it

it all starts at home if you ask me

 

[Wingznut]

One word... PARENTS

Parents are the problem. Too many not involved in their kids lives. Too many not ensuring their kids education. Too many not reinforcing proper morals and ethics.

No matter what a kid sees or reads, if his parents can reinforce what's right and what's wrong, he'll be ok.

 

[TheVrolok]

The REAL cause of this? Everything. Personally, I don't think you can blame one thing, one group, one medium, etc. society has many, many problems today. Many problems in morality which get the ball rolling. Am I saying society is bad, horrible, terrible? No, it just looks that way because that's all you hear about.

 

[JellyBaby]

Seems to me it's TV. TV became the parent, the pacifier, the informer, the brainwasher, the bringer of all news bad, the spiritual guide, the time waster.

Drop the TV, have family meals around the dinner table so a family starts acting like one again, teach responsibility and basic values and we'd be off to a good start. Oh and keep the frickin' government out of our wallets so we can afford to keep one parent home to train the young padawons.

 

[Pretender]

<< and overly exposed nudity >>

I dunno what country you live in, but I don't see many kids exposing themselves in public over here in the US.

 

[Hamburgerpimp]

Sex is violence, Sex is violence

 

[gcliv]

Look back at county records, court cases etc etc and you will see that this stuff (sex, violence etc) increased dramatically, especially as time went on, after school prayer was banned. I'm not starting anything, I'm just saying it's something to think about.




<< but I don't see many kids exposing themselves in public over here in the US >>



HAHA! Dude, walk down the street! What do you see? 15 yr old girls with skirts so short they barely cover their panties, and so much cleavage practically only the nipple is covered. THe 16 year old guys walk around with their pants almost to their knees showing off their Tommy Hilfiger undies. That comes pretty stinkin close to nudity.

 

[khaosspawn]

<< I mean like in many Music Video. The reason I said this is I read an article, I think it was in Time or Newsweek, can't remember, regarding to this thing.
I am talking about RAP music video mostly >>



Wow.That would mean that we should ban RAP music. Lets ban knives (in fact anthing with sharp edges), guns and anything that could potentially be lethal while we're at it.

Rap is popluar because rap records sell. If think those photographers that were chasing Princess Diana were really big fans? They were doin git for the money, which tabloids pay them, because the public wants to know.

The problem is much bigger than what you make it out to be. You can't jsut ban something or say it becasue of <insert race here>. What needs to happen is that people need to realise that just because Eminem raps about rape and violence, doesn't mean the they should rape and bash people.

 

[LordMaul]

Quit it doode or i will pop a cap in yo #*&amp;%(#! a-hass!

Go screw a wild boar.....bhwahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha....

 

[Elledan]

The only way to make children show non-violent behavior is by keeping them soft and ignorant.

The media and society both do their best to make children hard and make them aware of what is happening around them.

Violence equals Humans. Violence exists as long as there are Humans and this won't change. TheVrolok said it right: violence is caused by everything, it is the result of chain of events and you can't blame just one thing for causing everything.

 

[Pretender]

<< HAHA! Dude, walk down the street! What do you see? 15 yr old girls with skirts so short they barely cover their panties, and so much cleavage practically only the nipple is covered. THe 16 year old guys walk around with their pants almost to their knees showing off their Tommy Hilfiger undies. That comes pretty stinkin close to nudity. >>

Alright, so the slutty children are now putting on less clothes. I guess it saves them time after they're done, but I don't see the problem. Young girls have been screwing young guys (or old pedophiles) for years, what they wear has little to do with it.

As for the idiots with their jeans falling down, well, they wanna be gangsters because admit it, they're kinda cool. Before gangsters, there were mobsters (maybe you older folk can relate to wanting to be in the mafia). It's normal for people to want to feel or act like they're one of the powerful group.


I still don't see the point of this thread....