Now using FireFox

MRGOOCH · Jul 20, 2004

Should I delete all files or leave it as is?

niall · Jul 20, 2004

Leave it alone. Windows of most stripes since 98 really doesn't like an absence of IE as it's completely integrated in the operating system. Just make Firefox your default browser and that should take care of most instances.

spyordie007 · Jul 20, 2004

Dont delete anything; there are a number of applications that require the IE APIs to function and without IE they will break.

See niall's post above.

Rookie · Jul 20, 2004

and there are some Java apps the FF won't parse correctly...

but they are few and far between 🙂

CRXican · Jul 20, 2004

I'm glad you asked this because I forgot what the word on this was. I guess I'll try firefox then since I don't have to worry about IE. I just run the Firefox browser instead, is it really that simple?

Tremulant · Jul 20, 2004

Just leave IE.

I've noticed a few programs link directly to IE instead of just the default browser, plus like said above, IE is integrated into Windows, removing it would cause problems.

niall · Jul 20, 2004

CRXican: I installed Firefox myself a few days ago, and the first time you launch it, it asks you if you want to make it your default browser. They thought of everything. 🙂

pitupepito2000 · Jul 20, 2004

I would leave it because Windows Update needs it, and other apps do. That doesn't mean that you have to use it as your main browser.

Jeff7 · Jul 20, 2004

And I keep it to view websites that don't work right with Firefox. For example, Liteon's firmware download page doesn't work with Firefox. Each time you click on a file to download, it pops up a window. Even if I set Firefox to allow popups for the site, it still won't work.
There are a few other anomalies too that are interesting to see. For example, this page at the postal service's site has some errors in Firefox - it shows &nbsp in front of most of the text boxes, but that doesn't show up in IE.

Jiggz · Jul 21, 2004

I left it on, but now I 'm having problems with Java. For some reasone since installing FF, I cannot post PM's and New Topic at AT's Forum. But then there is this Quick Reply option on the bottom. Can anybody enlighten me. I've tried installing both of Sun's Java JRE's. Thanks.

niall · Jul 21, 2004

I bumped into the same problem, but found what I was looking for: FireFox is installed as default with Java and Javascript turned OFF. One more reason to love them, the default is security. 🙂

Click Tools-->Options-->Web Features. You'll see the second mini-window with options to enable Java and Javascript. You can even click on "Advanced..." and choose exactly which parts of Java/script to use!

CTho9305 · Jul 21, 2004

Originally posted by: Jiggz
I left it on, but now I 'm having problems with Java. For some reasone since installing FF, I cannot post PM's and New Topic at AT's Forum. But then there is this Quick Reply option on the bottom. Can anybody enlighten me. I've tried installing both of Sun's Java JRE's. Thanks.

FuseTalk sends different HTML to Mozilla and IE. The IE code uses some non-standard constructs that could trivially be ported to a standards-compliant version, but for some reason, the guy who writes FuseTalk doesn't.

FuseTalk should work fine without the JRE. JavaScript and Java are COMPLETELY different things - JavaScript was actually called ECMA Script before the Java hype began.

n0cmonkey · Jul 21, 2004

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: Jiggz
I left it on, but now I 'm having problems with Java. For some reasone since installing FF, I cannot post PM's and New Topic at AT's Forum. But then there is this Quick Reply option on the bottom. Can anybody enlighten me. I've tried installing both of Sun's Java JRE's. Thanks.

Click to expand...

FuseTalk sends different HTML to Mozilla and IE. The IE code uses some non-standard constructs that could trivially be ported to a standards-compliant version, but for some reason, the guy who writes FuseTalk doesn't.

FuseTalk should work fine without the JRE. JavaScript and Java are COMPLETELY different things - JavaScript was actually called ECMA Script before the Java hype began.

You mean fusetalk isn't as professional as their site tries to make them seem? 😛

civad · Jul 21, 2004

I am posting from FF .. and I havent had any problems w/ PM or new topic, but I've had problems posting links 🙂

Firefox 0.9.2 / Linux

VirtualLarry · Jul 22, 2004

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: Jiggz
I left it on, but now I 'm having problems with Java. For some reasone since installing FF, I cannot post PM's and New Topic at AT's Forum. But then there is this Quick Reply option on the bottom. Can anybody enlighten me. I've tried installing both of Sun's Java JRE's. Thanks.

Click to expand...

FuseTalk should work fine without the JRE. JavaScript and Java are COMPLETELY different things - JavaScript was actually called ECMA Script before the Java hype began.

Err, no, Netscape (AFAIK) invented JavaScript. Later some, some group in Europe decided to standardize a specific subset of JavaScript as ECMAScript. They were also going to create a standardized version of the Win(16? 32?) API, but MS got really heated at that. (If that had happened, Windows would have become more of a truely "open" platform, like DOS used to be, such that any application written to that API would have worked, with any OS that cleanly implemented that same API. As it is now, all Windows' APIs are still basically proprietary, what with MS "churning" them every OS and SP/version release.)

But you're right, Java and JavaScript are totally different things, and you don't need Java to post on AT's forums.

Goi · Jul 22, 2004

Originally posted by: Jeff7
And I keep it to view websites that don't work right with Firefox. For example, Liteon's firmware download page doesn't work with Firefox. Each time you click on a file to download, it pops up a window. Even if I set Firefox to allow popups for the site, it still won't work.
There are a few other anomalies too that are interesting to see. For example, this page at the postal service's site has some errors in Firefox - it shows &nbsp in front of most of the text boxes, but that doesn't show up in IE.

I just went to that site and I don't have any problems with it, no &nbsp's showing up in front of textboxes. Also I haven't encounted many problems with the forums either. However, in all fairness there are some sites that do not work too well with Firefox. Some of these can be fixed with the useragent extension(due to browser detecting), but many others cannot.

Anyway, in response to the thread starter's question, I would clear all cookies, history and cache, then leave it as it is. As others have mentioned, some sites, notably windowsupdate, require IE to view.

lucrioual · Jul 22, 2004

Yeah, like said above, you might need IE eventually. I know that when I want to view a site that has stuff like css scrollbars or other things that Firefox doesn't like to have. Just delete temp files and cookies ect. But definitely keep it on there.

PhoenixOrion · Jul 22, 2004

when is ff going 1.0?

eplebnista · Jul 23, 2004

FF Roadmap

screw3d · Jul 23, 2004

Originally posted by: Goi

Originally posted by: Jeff7
And I keep it to view websites that don't work right with Firefox. For example, Liteon's firmware download page doesn't work with Firefox. Each time you click on a file to download, it pops up a window. Even if I set Firefox to allow popups for the site, it still won't work.
There are a few other anomalies too that are interesting to see. For example, this page at the postal service's site has some errors in Firefox - it shows &nbsp in front of most of the text boxes, but that doesn't show up in IE.

Click to expand...

I just went to that site and I don't have any problems with it, no &nbsp's showing up in front of textboxes. Also I haven't encounted many problems with the forums either. However, in all fairness there are some sites that do not work too well with Firefox. Some of these can be fixed with the useragent extension(due to browser detecting), but many others cannot.

Anyway, in response to the thread starter's question, I would clear all cookies, history and cache, then leave it as it is. As others have mentioned, some sites, notably windowsupdate, require IE to view.

&nbsp is supposed to be &nbsp;

Sloppy HTML there, Firefox is just rendering it the way it's supposed to.

Psych · Jul 23, 2004

Don't do anything to IE except clear out ALL the history, and maybe even disable everything that it can do and set the Internet Zone to Restricted. Then just use when absolutely necessary.

VirtualLarry · Jul 27, 2004

Originally posted by: Rookie
and there are some Java apps the FF won't parse correctly...

but they are few and far between 🙂

Mozilla/Firefox doesn't parse Java. I think that you are talking about the Sun JVM, and how some "Java" applications were written using MS's proprietary extensions to Java, so that they will only run in the MS VM, which of course, only runs inside of IE.

Have you tried upgrading your Sun JVM lately? They have apparently made quite a few compatibility fixes.

Edit: err, sorry, I didn't realize that I had already posted to this thread before. Guess my short-term memory is getting shorter.

MidasKnight · Jul 27, 2004

Leave it.

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