Now that Windows 10 is released... I feel like installing Linux Mint.

[balloonshark]

I thought the OP was referring to "Asimov".

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-9-telemetry-data-will-be-near-real-time

Microsoft will be using a new system, codenamed 'Asimov', that will provide a near real-time view of what is happening on users' machines. Before you freak out and think Microsoft is watching all of your mouse clicks, our knowledge of the system indicates that the data is obscured and aggregated, but affords Microsoft new insights into user interactions with the OS. Mary Jo Foley, who uncovered the codename, says that the system was originally built by the Xbox Team.

The idea is quite simple: gather as much data as possible to make sure that the user experience is exactly like Microsoft has envisioned. With more telemetry data, it will help the team behind the OS make sure that updates, features, and every other aspect are all working correctly and if not, they will have high-quality data to troubleshoot the issue.

I'm leery about future Windows versions if they keep data in the cloud. I also don't want a virtual assistant keeping tabs on everything I do.

 

[mikeymikec]

I wonder if the new reporting system is anything like the one from Vista, which can be disabled in one go from the Task Scheduler (computer management).

 

[Skaendo]

And you think Mint makes you safe from NSA spying?? Really?

Have you seen the size of their brand new data collection center?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

I trust Linux 100 times more than windows. 1000 times more than Google, since Google admitted to reporting most all data they collect to the NSA. Not that I'm doing anything wrong, I just don't like big brother looking over my shoulder trying to make me politically correct. Politically correctness is not the answer. The world is in a bad way because of it.

The idea is quite simple: gather as much data as possible to make sure that the user experience is exactly like Microsoft has envisioned. With more telemetry data, it will help the team behind the OS make sure that updates, features, and every other aspect are all working correctly and if not, they will have high-quality data to troubleshoot the issue

This really scares me.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Wait, reporting error data scares you? Why?

 

[Skaendo]

The idea is quite simple: gather as much data as possible to make sure that the user experience is exactly like Microsoft has envisioned.

Gather as much data as possible? That's a pretty wide scope.

And Microsofts vision might not be the same as mine. I tend to think for myself, not let someone else do my thinking for me.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Gather as much data as possible? That's a pretty wide scope.

And Microsofts vision might not be the same as mine. I tend to think for myself, not let someone else do my thinking for me.

Again - you're quoting an article (which is citing Mary Jo Foley), not Microsoft. Perhaps someone will write an article looking at what data Microsoft is gathering.

 

[Skaendo]

Again - you're quoting an article (which is citing Mary Jo Foley), not Microsoft. Perhaps someone will write an article looking at what data Microsoft is gathering.

Agreed.

 

[3spooky5u]

Slackeware m8

 

[VirtualLarry]

Wait, reporting error data scares you? Why?

It's a bit dis-ingenious to call it "error" data, don't you think, when it is recording keystrokes and mouse movements?

 

[KillerBee]

Yep, if have any concerns with privacy the only way is to test it offline or in a VM without an outside internet connection since it's main function is to provide feedback to Microsoft.

Though would like to hear more about the keystroke monitoring

 

[lxskllr]

This will be the first Windows I haven't even tried. I can't be bothered to waste the bandwidth downloading it.

Regarding the keystroke monitoring... If they say they're collecting keystrokes, only a fool would take it as anything other what's explicitly stated. If there's no qualifiers, one can assume they collect all keys, all the time. If there are qualifiers, they can't be trusted. Companies have no good will towards their customers, and technology that can be abused will be abused. I'll take my O/S sans keylogger, thank you.

 

[bbhaag]

I'm not sure what all the complaining is about. Microsoft released this version of Windows 10 specifically for this reason. They even mention how it shouldn't be used on everyday machines.
This version is for error reporting and fine tuning the OS by getting direct user feedback from their customers.

 

[Maximilian]

Good luck man!

I want to do the same but... muh gamez

If only league of legends ran on linux with zero dicking about... same for world of tanks. I would switch!!!

 

[3spooky5u]

Good luck man!

I want to do the same but... muh gamez

If only league of legends ran on linux with zero dicking about... same for world of tanks. I would switch!!!

PlayOnLinux

World of tanks is on that so that is covered

and install LoL through WINE

No need to tweak any of that.

 

[Maximilian]

PlayOnLinux

World of tanks is on that so that is covered

and install LoL through WINE

No need to tweak any of that.

Ooo that looks pretty sweet actually... The thumbsup/down comments don't fill me with confidence though:

https://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-1135-League_Of_Legends.html

When I eventually get a terrabyte SSD and do a full reinstall ill give mint a shot as a daily driver and try this.

 

[corkyg]

The OP question is incorrect. Win 10 is NOT released. It is only in Tech Preview. Actual release will probably be summer or fall of 2015. That leaves plenty of time to learn a Linux alternative if that is your bent.

 

[Skaendo]

I'm not sure what all the complaining is about. Microsoft released this version of Windows 10 specifically for this reason. They even mention how it shouldn't be used on everyday machines.
This version is for error reporting and fine tuning the OS by getting direct user feedback from their customers.

Just for the sake of a discussion, If it's not supposed to be run on everyday machines, what are you supposed to do with it? Install it on a non-everyday machine and never use it? or Install it on a machine and create and do a bunch of random things that dont mean anything like send fake emails to a fake email address and create word documents that are just a bunch of gibberish?

 

[corkyg]

Has anyone read this? It specifies the purpose of the technical preview.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement

 

[Skaendo]

Has anyone read this? It specifies the purpose of the technical preview.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement

Not that anyone really reads that crap but this startled me:

When you acquire, install and use the Program, Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks. Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.For example, when you:

• install the Program, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility,
• use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing,
• open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes any use it for purposes such as improving performance, or
• enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spellcheck features.

And then it goes on to say that they share the data that they collect. WOW.

 

[imagoon]

Not that anyone really reads that crap but this startled me:

When you acquire, install and use the Program, Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks. Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.For example, when you:

• install the Program, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility,
• use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing,
• open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes any use it for purposes such as improving performance, or
• enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spellcheck features.

And then it goes on to say that they share the data that they collect. WOW.

I could see both ends of this.
1) install the program = what you installed and how long you used it, gather event error logs to try and make it work vs sending everything to MS.
2) Speech, likely they gather the voice meta data rather than the voice itself and try to improve recondition vs sending the raw voice files and data.
3) open a file and have the meta data sent "IE its word, 200k in 12 fragments, how long it took to open etc vs sending the raw file itself.
4) enter text: collect the typed characters that were auto corrected. IE send typed characters "Teh" to MS after you auto corrected to The in an auto-correcting text field (ie not a password field) in order to better enhance the correcting system vs sending all typed characters.

 

[Ketchup]

I don't know why you would want to do anything personal on a beta OS. I even went out of my way to install it with an "old school" user name, as opposed to email ID.

 

[corkyg]

I don't know why you would want to do anything personal on a beta OS. I even went out of my way to install it with an "old school" user name, as opposed to email ID.

Agree! And the tech preview is not even beta - it is pre-beta.

 

[Skaendo]

I could see both ends of this.
1) install the program = what you installed and how long you used it, gather event error logs to try and make it work vs sending everything to MS.
2) Speech, likely they gather the voice meta data rather than the voice itself and try to improve recondition vs sending the raw voice files and data.
3) open a file and have the meta data sent "IE its word, 200k in 12 fragments, how long it took to open etc vs sending the raw file itself.
4) enter text: collect the typed characters that were auto corrected. IE send typed characters "Teh" to MS after you auto corrected to The in an auto-correcting text field (ie not a password field) in order to better enhance the correcting system vs sending all typed characters.

Did you fail to see this?:

Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.

 

[3spooky5u]

Ooo that looks pretty sweet actually... The thumbsup/down comments don't fill me with confidence though:

https://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-1135-League_Of_Legends.html

When I eventually get a terrabyte SSD and do a full reinstall ill give mint a shot as a daily driver and try this.

If you need help with Linux, you can always ask me.

Been using it for 12 years

 

[imagoon]

Did you fail to see this?:

Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.

Nope. I may have failed to wear my tin foil hat though. In legal speak that is just CYA in case that information comes back from the WEM system. They state the same thing if you ever submit a crash log to MS for some reason in case the app that crashed had that information in memory when it execeptioned.