Now that BSG is over...

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Poll's are self-explanatory :)

Non-poll questions:

What was your favorite moment/episode/plot line from the series?

What was your most hated moment/episode/plot line from the series?


My answers are:

For me the best moment was the escape from New Caprica. They did a great job blowing stuff up, and did well with the plot for it.

The worst "let down" would have to be the massive amounts of religious overtones. They could almost play this in a church and call it scripture it was so religiously themed.

Series:
9/10

Final ep:
8/10

Ranked 4th in Sci-fi (behind DS9, Firefly, and B5 in that order)

I'll watch it again, just not right away

The writers at least made it worth my time, and I don't regret spending so much time on it
 

imported_Imp

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Not one of my top sci-fi shows, last episode was good, but the series was meh overal (6).

Now Lost, that will be something that I write home about.
 

makken

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overall: 7/10
final ep: 5/10
ranking: 3rd - after Babylon5 and Firefly
rewatch? no
am I glad I stuck around? The writers made it worth my time at least
 

newb111

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overall: 8/10
final ep: 8/10
ranking: 3rd - after Star Trek and Firefly
rewatch? Already have, probably will again in the future.
glad? yes
 

DrawninwarD

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The finale was EPIC. The first half was sooooo incredible. I was waiting for a battle and BSG delivered. Ending was ... odd. But not bad, no.
 

Newbian

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Well the pilot was easily one of the best but other then that it does fall a ways under firefly.
 

nageov3t

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firefly was such a horrible show... I'm even a Joss Whedon fanboy, but the characters were all flat cliches and the only interesting plotline on the whole show (the chick whose name I can't remember... the one who's on Terminator now) was completely ignored and shoved by the wayside until almost the end of the series.
 

Ichigo

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Originally posted by: loki8481
firefly was such a horrible show... I'm even a Joss Whedon fanboy, but the characters were all flat cliches and the only interesting plotline on the whole show (the chick whose name I can't remember... the one who's on Terminator now) was completely ignored and shoved by the wayside until almost the end of the series.

*readies pitchfork*

WHO'S WITH ME?!
 

Newbian

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: loki8481
firefly was such a horrible show... I'm even a Joss Whedon fanboy, but the characters were all flat cliches and the only interesting plotline on the whole show (the chick whose name I can't remember... the one who's on Terminator now) was completely ignored and shoved by the wayside until almost the end of the series.

*readies pitchfork*

WHO'S WITH ME?!

So where do you plan on sticking that?
 

Uhtrinity

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overall: 3/10 - The series lost it's way by the end of season 2. It appeared as if it had no direction and they were making it up as they went.

final ep: 1/10 - I got the impression that everyone just gave up at the end, not very inspiring. Now if they had kept their tech and and maybe hint at forming Atlantis, or having tie ins with lost ancient cultures, maybe, but to just blend in with primitive tribes .... wtf?

ranking: Not even top 10 and borderline sci fi, more space opera. The writing reminded me more of the soap operas my mom used to watch than the sci fi I love. Occasionally there would be a good story, but it always fell back to space opera.

rewatch? no, I have watched all of them hoping that it would eventually go somewhere, and it didn't (IMHO). It was seriously like watching a crappy movie hoping the ending would at least give closure, it didn't deliver (again IMO).

am I glad I stuck around? I am more disappointed more than anything as I was a fan of the original series and had hopes for this one. B5 still stands out as my all time favorite. Hell, Buck Rogers in the 25th century ranks higher than this show even with it's campiness.
 

Crono

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Favorite part: the mini-series and season 1. When the show was about running and survival, about battling the cylons, about the strain and stress between the humans in the fleet from the war, it was a good series. They had a good balance of action and human drama then.

The writers tried too much in seasons 2 and 3. They made the show take various political and religious tones and plots, copying actual history and modern conflicts to fuel most of the story. That's when it started to fail. In the special, they commented that the network tried to keep them from making the series too "dark". I think that was part of the problem, that the show became kind of overly depressing in its darkness (to some extent, it was necessary, given the nature of the show), but even greater was that they kept skipping around with a new central themes. The whole gods vs god aspect would have been less annoying if it actually resolved itself in some way, but it just seemed to evaporate, until this final episode in season 4, which seemed to indicate some sort of higher being "It" (kind of like the unseen mover of events in my favorite game of all time, Chrono Trigger) but didn't reveal everything we were wondering about the "angels" of Gaius and Caprica. I got the pseudo-Roman religion they used for the 12 colonies, but the pseudo-Christian aspect didn't sit well with me because it rang really false with the cylon interpretation and Gaius' saccharine preaching. The whole prophet/messiah thing (especially the stereotypical "Jesus look", even worse than Collier in The 4400) with Gaius Baltar was extremely annoying, but at least he was a character that you kind of wanted to hate, but was really pathetic (like a sad puppy, I think someone in the series said) and occasionally altruistic. Gaius was really the central character of the series, I think, even more than Adama or Roslin were. He pretty much sums up the entire feel of the series, right up until the end when he takes up a gun to defend the ship (he looked surprisingly proper and not quite as foolish as he usually did when taking on a role).

The cylons were an excellent enemy in the first half of the series, but then the cylons in the fleet, the "final five", just made it unclear who the enemy was. Which was the point, I know, but the primary enemy that developed (Cavil, I guess) wasn't as strong and clear a villain as the cylons appeared to be at the start of the series. I don't know about everyone else, but I love a clear, almost archetypal evil, enemy.

Overall, I would like the series if maybe 70% of the material, some entire episodes, some scenes from some episodes, and some entire story arcs, were removed. It's true with almost any story I've read or series I've watched that I disliked a portion of what it contained, but in this case the percentage is unusually high - and yet I still liked it enough to watch it until the end. I liked the original direction the series started off with, and the ratio of action (I love the battle scenes) to drama. The final episode yesterday, which I saw this morning, had a good amount of action. The final ending was somewhat predictable, but it at least it had the semblance of an ending, unlike many series' I have seen in the past. It's really disappointing when a series is left hanging, but they wrapped up most of the story nicely with this last episode. BSG was a flawed series, but it had the feel of an epic story, with low and high points to match, so it doesn't suffer poorly in my judgment. Series rating: 7/10

I would put BSG at maybe number 8 or so out of all the sci-fi shows I have seen. It would be up there ahead of Stargate Atlantis and perhaps ahead of Stargate for its drama, but behind in terms of plot pacing and likeability of characters. I don't think I liked anyone in BSG that much (except maybe Hot Dog or Doc Cottle :p). Maybe they were just all too irritatingly real and changeable to like for long. BSG falls short of my all time favorite sci-fi series like Quantum Leap (much preferred Dean Stockwell as the good guy :D), Firefly, and Twin Peaks, which all, like BSG, are overall excellent TV series and not just excellent sci-fi series. If there is a show that I would give an equivalent rating of 7, it would be Sliders, which started off well and ended up really bad with the Kromaggs. The two series are very different, and I like them both for different reasons, but I think I like them about equally.

Would I rewatch BSG? No, I don't think so. Maybe I might rewatch the mini-series for nostalgia's sake at some point in the future, but not the main series, for all the reasons I mentioned previously. I'm ambivalent about whether sticking around for the series was a good thing or not. I'm glad the series is over, but I wish it was more of the series I liked and not weighed down with the things I didn't like.
 

Finalnight

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Mar 5, 2003
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Never watched though I have all the episodes, looks like I didn't miss much. I hate the "endless cycle" type of stories.
 

acheron

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series 10/10. final 9/10.

I voted "2nd" (after B5, which would be, um 10+/10 :p ) but I'm still considering that. B5 and BSG are #1 and #2, in whichever order. Part of the problem is that B5 is very "early 90s" and so is obviously dated in parts, so I'm trying to take each show in context.

I didn't start watching BSG until last year, so except for season 4.5, I watched it all on DVDs. So the "delays" and such never happened to me. :)
 

techs

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The best scene was when Galactica jumped into the atmosphere of New Caprica and it was falling towards the ground.
Second best was when the Base Stars had Galactica surrounded and where blasting her, and Pegasus came in.
Third best was when Hot Dog launched thru the flames of Galactica as it fell to the ground.

The mini series and the first episode "33" were the best (btw they never explained why it was 33 minutes)

The worst parts were the Baltar and his cult scenes. We get it. Baltar had a harem who thought he was a prophet. Move on.

And the finale was absolutely fantastic. I just rewatched it. It had everything. Human relationships, a great space battle, great machine battle, surprises and was emotionally moving. Unlike a lot of people I thought Kara's exit was just right.
Though the finale did drag on a bit towards the end. I am guessing that when they show the reruns some of that will be cut since the epi was 11 minutes more than 2 hours. Only people who watch the dvd will ever see it in its entirety again.

As to where it stands amongst other science fiction shows, I rank it high. Unlike many other shows it actually was about people. The change in the relationships between the humans and cylons was the kind of thing that most science fiction shows don't get into.

Did I mention it had hot chicks? Who actually did more than just stand around and look pretty.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: techs
The best scene was when Galactica jumped into the atmosphere of New Caprica and it was falling towards the ground.
Second best was when the Base Stars had Galactica surrounded and where blasting her, and Pegasus came in.
Third best was when Hot Dog launched thru the flames of Galactica as it fell to the ground.

The mini series and the first episode "33" were the best (btw they never explained why it was 33 minutes)

The worst parts were the Baltar and his cult scenes. We get it. Baltar had a harem who thought he was a prophet. Move on.

And the finale was absolutely fantastic. I just rewatched it. It had everything. Human relationships, a great space battle, great machine battle, surprises and was emotionally moving. Unlike a lot of people I thought Kara's exit was just right.
Though the finale did drag on a bit towards the end. I am guessing that when they show the reruns some of that will be cut since the epi was 11 minutes more than 2 hours. Only people who watch the dvd will ever see it in its entirety again.

As to where it stands amongst other science fiction shows, I rank it high. Unlike many other shows it actually was about people. The change in the relationships between the humans and cylons was the kind of thing that most science fiction shows don't get into.

Did I mention it had hot chicks? Who actually did more than just stand around and look pretty.

No it wasn't. SciFi just loaded it with Commercials. Space showed it within 2 hours. That is why, I assume, I was a good 5 minutes ahead of most others. I had to keep my comments few and vague so as not to give anything away.

 

0roo0roo

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i didn't like the tie in with today and the whole silly tossing all tech when there were cylons among them:p
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: loki8481
firefly was such a horrible show... I'm even a Joss Whedon fanboy, but the characters were all flat cliches and the only interesting plotline on the whole show (the chick whose name I can't remember... the one who's on Terminator now) was completely ignored and shoved by the wayside until almost the end of the series.

*readies pitchfork*

WHO'S WITH ME?!

I've got a couple of torches in the back.
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: loki8481
firefly was such a horrible show... I'm even a Joss Whedon fanboy, but the characters were all flat cliches and the only interesting plotline on the whole show (the chick whose name I can't remember... the one who's on Terminator now) was completely ignored and shoved by the wayside until almost the end of the series.

*readies pitchfork*

WHO'S WITH ME?!

I've got a couple of torches in the back.

loki8481 is so right.:)