Now I remember why I hate strip clubs

HumblePie

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I'm mostly ranting here after getting home late tonight. I apologize for any typos or bad grammar at this point but I'll try to keep it at a minimum. For the lazy asses, here are some cliffs.


<<<<CLIFFS: skip if you want some more details from my story.

1) Had a monthly award ceremony at work today.

2) After ceremony, got invited to Hooters for some more food and drinks.

3) Waitress was terrible at Hooters and only received 1 beer in 3 hours.

4) After Hooters got conned into going to strip club.

5) Grabbed some cash from ATM on way, figured to pay drinks with my card. Cash was for door and maybe 2 dances at most.

6) Waitress delivers me one beer. On the second beer tries to say that's my 5th. When I'm like, no it's not, she says yes it is, you are just f*cked up. I've only been in the club for 20 minutes.

7) Bartender agrees to take care of it. I order no more drinks and refuse that one. Get a tab at the end of the night for 5 drinks.

8) Basically get screwed over for 5 drinks when I drank one.







Okay, if you skipped the cliffs for a better story and my rant here it is.

Tonight was my company's monthly birthday party after work. It consists of handing out awards, cake, and sandwiches. Usually I skip the affair but since I've skipped it a few too many times, I felt obligated to come after a few extra "invites" by some other supervisors. for once, the party wasn't a complete bust as more than a few people stayed around after the "awards" and 10 minutes of make a dash for the food table to eat and run. Typically that is what happens, but a few other people stuck around tonight just chilling.

So I'm hanging around and some of the younger guys want to head over to hooters to catch the crappy Charger vs Raiders game and get some food and drinks. They head on ahead while I'm in a conversation, and I tell them I'll get there in a bit. About 8ish I get to Hooters to join them for the second half of the game and the Rutgers game as well. I order a beer and wait literally over an hour to get it. The waitress was new and terrible. She wasn't even cute so I was really just considering canceling my order so I wouldn't have to feel obligated for any tip at all. None was deserved for waiting over an hour for a beer no matter how new the person is, and when they are managing 3 tables with an mostly empty place. One of the other guys notices I haven't received anything and before I just call off my order or just walk out, he brings over the waitress and points out the mistake.

Of course I get fawned over with "I'm sooo sooo sooo sorry." and blah blah blah. I knew at this point I should have just said screw it and gone home. Why I didn't I can't tell yah.

I'm there for a couple more hours, and manage to down one more beer. I pay the gawd awful 5 or 6 bucks a beer price Hooters charges. I even tip a couple bucks despite my inclination not to tip anything. However, by this time, my spirits had picked up talking with friends and watching football, or the debacle of the games tonight. So as it gets a bit later conversation wanders a bit and for some odd reason people are talking about a strip club nearby that's new that they've heard of but never been too and is near where I live. If you live in Houston, Texas the place is called Joy's Dance and Sports Club of Houston. I'm mentioning the name now because this place sucks badly.

A few people at Hooters with me wanted to go and for some stupid reason I agreed. Knowing strip clubs, I stop on my way to grab $60 from an ATM for the door, maybe a dance or two, and I'll buy any drinks off my card.

I get to the place, and ONE other person ends up coming. The other guy, Joe, and I stand around outside waiting a bit for others to show. One by one, they call one of us, or we call them and find out they decided to head home. I should have done the same. I guess it was because I was there, and hadn't been to a strip club in almost a decade I figured, why the hell not.

So my friend Joe and I head in. The door price wasn't too bad at $8 each. Was figuring it to be $10 or more but that's fine. Get in there and the place is dead. About 10 other customers, 6 or 7 dancers, and 4 or 5 waitresses. Practically every waitress looked 10 times better than the dancers and the waitresses really were about average looking girls. "Bleh" was my first reaction. "Screw it," I thought because I paid my way in already. I'll have a drink see if maybe a better dancer is off in a corner or the dressing room changing that I haven't seen. So we sit at a table and instantly a couple of waitresses are on us. I'll give the waitresses credit, they were fast, attentive, and friendly. Not friendly in the illegal way, well maybe but I never got to that point, but in a normal way. My friend and I each other a beer. He pays cash for his and I start a tab. After opening the tab, they come out with a bunch of paperwork for you to print your name on and sign. "WTF?" was my reaction. Again, yet another red flag I ignored. Don't ask me why.

So, we get our beers and I start nursing mine while relaxing, watching some girls, and some highlights of ESPN on TV. My friend downs his a bit faster than mine and orders another and pays cash for his. A couple of fairly uglyish girls come up to us asking if we want dances. We both decline, and mange to spot a couple, "Okay" ones for strippers. Meaning, they look decent enough in low lights, and with alcohol, but in daylight we might run.

I finally finish a beer as the waitress comes over and asks me if I'm finally ready for another. Sh had asked me a few times "covertly" as I'm nursing that last fourth of the bottle. Anyhow, she runs off to bring me my second beer. She plunks it down and says, "That's $6.50."

I said, "Oh, I'm the one with the tab, my friend was the one paying cash. "

"Oh, I'm sorry I'll just put this one as well on your tab then."

For some reason that comment struck a cord and warning sirens in my head. I went ahead and said, "I'll probably will only have this second one then."

"That's your fifth sir."



Okay, I'm thinking to myself what the heck??? "Um no, this is my second," was my reply. "No, that's the fifth on your tab. Your friend has had 3 already."

"Uhh, my friend has been paying you cash in hand for all his drinks so far, I've just had one."

"Well, it's on your friend's tab anyway so just take it."

Umm, WHAT?!?!? is my internal reaction at this point.

"No, my friend has been paying cash for his drinks, he doesn't have a tab. I am the only one that has a tab open and I've only had one drink."

"Sir, that's your fifth, you are just f*cked up at this point and don't remember."

"Excuse me, but with a single drink, I severely doubt I've lost my sobriety nor lost my ability to count."

"Fine, wait right here sir."

She storms off with me looking dumbstruck at my friend. We were both at a loss for words at this point. About a minute later she shows up with someone else in tow who I thought at first was a manager but instead it turns out is the bartender as I found out later. I explain everything I said to the bartender that I've had a single drink over the course of an hour, that I'm completely sober, and that the waitress made a mistake. At this point I notice one of the nicer looking dancer heads over to my friend and sit in his lap.

The bartender says, I'll take care of it, just take the beer she is giving me now. I said, "No, I do not want any more drinks. I am a bit upset at this point and rather not take any more drinks." I should have just closed the tab, but I noticed my friend was actually enjoying himself with that stripper and for some reason I couldn't bring myself to make a big stink of the whole thing. the bartender says to me "Well, this beer is on me, just sit down, cheer up, and relax. I'm sorry about the misunderstanding, but we try to take good care of our customers."

I went ahead and sat back down at my table, and the waitress put the beer on it and took off. I never saw her again that night. I also never touched that second beer. My friend comes back from a lap dance from another booth area. After a bit he notices the drink, and I said he could have it as it was one on the house but I was pissed off enough I didn't want it. I tell him the part of the story he missed while enjoying his dance. He gets up and heads over to bar and brings me back a coke. Says to me, "If I'm drinking, you are going to have to drink something. Just sip on this till we leave."

From there on out, basically every girl in the place gave me the stink eye and ignored me. I was completely uncomfortable and the only reason I didn't just head out was my friend was at least enjoying himself.

So, 2 AM rolls around and it's the end of the night. We've been at the place since a almost midnight. The waitress, who had ignored me for the past hour, finally walks up to me with the tab. I check the price and notice it is for a retarded amount at $47.50 with 5 drinks marked on it.

GRRR, I'm now pissed at this point. Had I been ten years younger I would have been livid and irate enough to make a huge stink. Instead I calmly ask to speak to a manager. After telling him the story, he brings the bartender and waitress over. At this point the bartender completely lies and states, that I had that many drinks. WTF???? The manager says to me, in good favor I can take off a single drink which is $6.50.

Wait a second... HOLY MOLY...... I did the quick math in my head, and yes $6.50 a beer times 5 beers is NOT $47.50. I explain to the manager yet again I had a SINGLE beer and nothing else but a coke my friend got me which he paid cash for. Even if I had 5 drinks, $6.50 a beer isn't $47.50. to which the bar keep replied, but you had 3 premium drinks sir.

Three what????? Oh now I'm pissed. At this point I'm about ready to tear into the manager, waitress, and bartender. At which point "other" associates start drifting nearby. I notice it and take the hint. They are basically trying to rob me and I best pay up and get the hell out if I want to out at all. I pay the $41 bucks, get a copy of the receipt and leave with my friend.

Morale of the stroy is, NEVER EVER EVER go to Joy's gentleman's Club in Houston Texas. Also, if you do go into a place, always pay cash per drink. I've never had a problem using my card before until tonight. Yes, my dumb arse used my debit card as well so I can't dispute the charges like I could if I had used an actual credit card. So basically I got robbed.

I'm so pissed still, I've spent the last hour writing this crap up because I can't sleep. Argh. I hate strip clubs.
 

TallBill

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No way in hell would I have signed to that. Give waitress $7 cash, walk out, report debit card stolen.
 

cirrrocco

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damm, well atleast the next time ur going to a strip club in a decade ur gonna have a inbuilt chip that credits ur acct. if you get scammed then you a immediately make a post on AT using your mind synced browser...
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: cirrrocco
damm, well atleast the next time ur going to a strip club in a decade ur gonna have a inbuilt chip that credits ur acct. if you get scammed then you a immediately make a post on AT using your mind synced browser...

English please? Never mind, I really don't want to know what the hell you are trying to tell me.

Originally posted by: TallBill
No way in hell would I have signed to that. Give waitress $7 cash, walk out, report debit card stolen.

Couldn't, they were holding my debit card and license until I signed.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Originally posted by: cirrrocco
damm, well atleast the next time ur going to a strip club in a decade ur gonna have a inbuilt chip that credits ur acct. if you get scammed then you a immediately make a post on AT using your mind synced browser...

English please? Never mind, I really don't want to know what the hell you are trying to tell me.

Originally posted by: TallBill
No way in hell would I have signed to that. Give waitress $7 cash, walk out, report debit card stolen.

Couldn't, they were holding my debit card and license until I signed.

Then they were holding your property. I would have asked to call the police. You could have volunteered to a breathalyzer. Once it came up .01 you could have proven you didnt have 2 beers and 3 premium drinks pretty quickly.

Now that it is all done. You should file a charge back from your card. You didnt recieve the services that they say you did.
 

hx009

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Originally posted by: cirrrocco
damm, well atleast the next time ur going to a strip club in a decade ur gonna have a inbuilt chip that credits ur acct. if you get scammed then you a immediately make a post on AT using your mind synced browser...

English please? Never mind, I really don't want to know what the hell you are trying to tell me.

Originally posted by: TallBill
No way in hell would I have signed to that. Give waitress $7 cash, walk out, report debit card stolen.

Couldn't, they were holding my debit card and license until I signed.

Is this a Houston strip club thing? A similiar thing happened to me in a different Houston club in 2001. Except I went to get a couple dances like your friend did, and when they kept offering me drinks I refused. Night ends and they charge me for the dances and four drinks (that I didn't have). "Oh, you didn't know? There is a one drink per song minimum in the 'VIP Room'". The manager, bartender, and waitress all cornered me and pulled the same tactic... ganged up on me and had my card behind the bar.
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Then they were holding your property. I would have asked to call the police. You could have volunteered to a breathalyzer. Once it came up .01 you could have proven you didnt have 2 beers and 3 premium drinks pretty quickly.

Now that it is all done. You should file a charge back from your card. You didnt recieve the services that they say you did.

Yah, the problem is the card was a debit card, not a credit card, so there isn't the same level of "fraud" protection. Basically up to $50 I'm liable and anything over is fraud protected.

I really didn't want to have to wait another half hour or so for cops to show up, and then trying to prove that I didn't order those extra drinks for "dancers" or other patrons. See the problem here? I can claim all I want I ordered one drink, and my friend can back me up, but I guarantee you that the bar workers would ALL claim I ordered more to the police. In which case it becomes a whole lot of "words" against mine and my friends. No cop in that situation can do anything other than take statements from parties involved and give the advice that we should try to solve our disputes in a civil manner.

As I said, I basically knew at that point I was screwed. Right now, I'm checking my banking statement online and the damn place has put a $.02, that is two cent tester charge on my card and then a $500 pending payment "hold of funds" charge right now. I really, really, really hate strip clubs.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Then they were holding your property. I would have asked to call the police. You could have volunteered to a breathalyzer. Once it came up .01 you could have proven you didnt have 2 beers and 3 premium drinks pretty quickly.

Now that it is all done. You should file a charge back from your card. You didnt recieve the services that they say you did.

Yah, the problem is the card was a debit card, not a credit card, so there isn't the same level of "fraud" protection. Basically up to $50 I'm liable and anything over is fraud protected.

I really didn't want to have to wait another half hour or so for cops to show up, and then trying to prove that I didn't order those extra drinks for "dancers" or other patrons. See the problem here? I can claim all I want I ordered one drink, and my friend can back me up, but I guarantee you that the bar workers would ALL claim I ordered more to the police. In which case it becomes a whole lot of "words" against mine and my friends. No cop in that situation can do anything other than take statements from parties involved and give the advice that we should try to solve our disputes in a civil manner.

As I said, I basically knew at that point I was screwed. Right now, I'm checking my banking statement online and the damn place has put a $.02, that is two cent tester charge on my card and then a $500 pending payment "hold of funds" charge right now. I really, really, really hate strip clubs.

Still could have at least tried to force them to call your bluff by threatening to call the cops...
 

Raduque

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You should call the bank, mine me will let me dispute debit charges. Can't guarantee it like with a credit card, but there's a good chance you might get something back.
 

CptCrunch

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pay for the drinks with a credit card and then dispute the charges immediately
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Raduque
You should call the bank, mine me will let me dispute debit charges. Can't guarantee it like with a credit card, but there's a good chance you might get something back.

If it is a visa check card and he used it as a credit card it goes through the visa system. If you run it as debit it is through the bank.

With my bank even if it is used as a debit card they let me dispute charges.
 

moshquerade

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nothing like getting taken advantage of over a set of boobs.

what i mean is...if this treatment is common practice, and horny guys put up with it, then the behavior continues.
 

alchemize

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Smile, pay with your Amex, walk out of the bar and call the cops first and accuse the bar of physically extorting you through threats, fraud and theft (your license), call Amex second and dispute for previous reasons.
 

vshah

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I always use a tab, and i've never been over-charged. i'm often under-charged, in which case i add an extra large tip...
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Raduque
You should call the bank, mine me will let me dispute debit charges. Can't guarantee it like with a credit card, but there's a good chance you might get something back.

If it is a visa check card and he used it as a credit card it goes through the visa system. If you run it as debit it is through the bank.

With my bank even if it is used as a debit card they let me dispute charges.

My debit card is a mastercard, but although I sign for it like a credit card, it's debit. Which means it's my banks protection. I can dispute charges, but if they deem a charge is fraudulent, I am still liable for $50 of the fraudulent charge.

Originally posted by: alchemize
Smile, pay with your Amex, walk out of the bar and call the cops first and accuse the bar of physically extorting you through threats, fraud and theft (your license), call Amex second and dispute for previous reasons.

Yah, they refused to take any other card I offered after that point. As far as calling the cops are concerned, nothing would happen. I tell the cops that and at most they can do is take my statement. Which means I wasted my time and a cops time. Best I can do is just lodge a formal complaint with the BBB and make a few posts at some online review sites I can google.

The only other possible thing I could do, is go in during the "day time" and speak to one of the day managers working then to see if they would fix it. Which means hoping they aren't all aholes and that they actually care. I used to bar tend at a strip club when I was paying for college. Trust me, 99% of the people that work at those places could care less about any customer that doesn't come every day and spend thousands. Since I'm not one of those, chances of me getting this resolved that way is moot at best.

Originally posted by: vshah
I always use a tab, and i've never been over-charged. i'm often under-charged, in which case i add an extra large tip...

Usually what happened in true "bars". In strip clubs, that is never the case.
 

AlienCraft

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1. Go, during daytime hours, to the State Board that dispenses Alcohol Permits,
2. Spill your guts.
3. Let them do their job, which is basically to protect the citizens from jerks like this.
4. Profit
 

shortylickens

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Just outta curiosity, is this one of the Hooters in Beaverton or Portland?

Because I've found that those gals are horrible all around. When they aren't outright rude they are cold/uninteresting. The whole point of them being there is cute, friendly girls that are easy to talk to. Thats how they make their tip money, by flirting. But through about 6 months of on-off experience I'd say the Beaverton/Portland Hooters gals are some of the meanest waitresses I've ever met. They all had a serious case of American Princess and gave the impression they were too wonderful to be serving food to us commoners. If there were any nice ones I never met them. And I tried.


And for having the most strip clubs in the world, I'd say it makes sense that the majority Portland strippers would be rotten. Have only been a few clubs but I found the waitresses to be much prettier and nicer than the dancers. I've heard about a couple of nice, exclusive gentlemens clubs in Portland but I was never able to find a member to get me in.



Wait, sorry. I just saw on the bottom of your post that its Houston.
Weird. I always heard that Houston girls are known for their nice attitude. Waitresses, Hooters babes, dancers, all were supposed to be a cut above the rest. Guess I heard wrong.

Came back to Virginia recently and the local Hooters gals are much less friendly than they used to be. Dont know if they got a bad batch of ladies or if its the standard now. Went back twice during days and nights. Again, like Oregon, if there are any sweet ones I cant find them.

Luckily we have a Chilles, Ruby Tuesday, Applebees, Clearwater Tavern and a Logans Roadhouse, not to mention a couple of small independant places near my house. The waitresses are much nicer at each of them and the food is awesome by comparison.
Maybe thats what Hooters should do. Up the quality of their food.
 

ScottFern

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So was there like a bouncer near you when you were arguing about paying the tab? How did you know they were "robbing" you and not just rude and ignorant?
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: K1052
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/Enforce/CompInv.htm

They are always county and municipal agencies as well you can complain to. File with as many offices as possible.

You can also file a complaint via the Attorney General's office of Consumer Protection.

Thanks. Trying to figure out which rules they "technically" violated within TABC's demesne. Overcharging I don't think is a violation of TABC rules. It could be, just can't find it.

Originally posted by: ScottFern
So was there like a bouncer near you when you were arguing about paying the tab? How did you know they were "robbing" you and not just rude and ignorant?

Yes, but not exactly in my personal space, but he definitely drifted away from the door and was standing about 6 or 7 feet away. To be honest, it could just have been an auto reaction when seeing a manager speaking to a customer after 2 AM. I had to wait about 10 minutes or so after 2 for the manager to come over to talk to me. So to be fair, the doorman and other employee's could just be taking precautions or just being curious. Either way, at the point to me, it seemed a bit more significant. I hadn't raised my voice, made any wild gestures with my arms, or done anything that could be seen as harmful or threatening as a customer.
 

child of wonder

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Did you have a cell phone on you? I would've just dialed 911, told the operator you're being physically intimidated, and that you'd like an officer to come and sort out the mess.
 

CPA

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I'm just pissed that you're in Houston, went to a strip club and DIDN'T INVITE ME!

Should have went to the Colorado Club on 59 or The Men's Club on Westheimer (saw Robert Horry there once).
 

eddiebravo

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you are a huge idiot for actually paying that tab if it was bogus. i would have called the police on the spot, then when the officer arrived threatened to report to the better business bureau and all the state and local consumer protection agencies. waiting for the cop to show is so that you dont get your ass beat by a bunch of bouncers for trying to avoid their scam.