Now I really am screwed - please help with Win98SE reinstall problem!

weshuang

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OK, as of around midnight last night, I am totally screwed.

I've been having a problem that some of you have been helping me with. I swapped out an old NEC mobo / P2-300 for an Abit BH6 / Cele 300 oc'd to 450. I did this without reinstalling windows, and was having some moderate hardware problems, such as the IDE controllers not being recognized by Win98se, and being forced into dos-compatibility mode. Sort of irritating, but the computer was working.

After a month or so of troubleshooting, I was unable to fix the problems. Last night, I tried a fix that has been suggested by several helpful people here. I deleted the ENUM key in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry, to force win98se to reload all of the drivers.

After rebooting, Windows kept locking up as it was trying to detect and load drivers for new hardware devices. It was truly frustrating. I kept having to hard reboot, and did this about 6 times or so.

Finally, I threw up my hands and decided I would just have to reformat and reinstall windows, which many suggested I probably should have done in the first place. I have a master drive with win98se on it, and a slave drive with some of my programs on it, so reformatting the c: drive wouldn't be disastrous.

After formatting the drive, though, I have been unable to install windows. I can get into the setup program on the cd (in dos), but after it does the various system checks, it is locking up as it begins to copy files, not necessarily in the same place each time. This happened about 3 or 4 times before I had to go to bed for fear of jumping out of a window.

I have done several scandisks (which setup does automatically), including a complete surface scan, of the hd. No problems reported.

Please offer any suggestions!
 

FirmPete

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Not the most intelligent remark probably:

Can you copy setup files from cd to harddrive and install from there? (Rules out something stupid like a bad cd/cdromplayer)

 

weshuang

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It's definitely not a bad cd, because I just used it to install win98se on another computer. It probably isn't a bad cdplayer, because I just used it to install Baldur's Gate II, which is 5 cd's long. Could be a bad cable, I suppose. I guess I'll try buying 2 new IDE cables today.

sigh.
 

LevcoS

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You might also like to visit www.simmtester.com and grab a copy of DocMem, which is used to test RAM. Installing Windows requires lots of memory-intensive file decompression, which can bring previously hidden memory problems to light... which causes exactly the kind of lockups you describe...

Good luck!

LevcoS
 

BadThad

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1) What kind of HDD is this? I would run the HDD diag program from the vendor to make sure the drive is in fact OK. Scan disk is SUCK.

2) Try a different IDE cable.

3) Clock the system down to 300 at default voltage and check your CPU h/s fan setup.

4) Temporarily remove ALL unnescessary cards, ie modem, sound and any other devices not needed.
 

weshuang

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LevcoS,

Thanks, I'll try the memory tester. I'll be bummed if that is the problem, since I just bought it from somebody. It is supposed to be good memory, too, Mosel pc143.
 

weshuang

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Badthad,

It's a Quantum HD, I believe. It came with my original system, which is an NEC. I don't know if NEC's disks would have Quantum's diags on it. I'll try going to their site and seeing if I can download a utility. Thank god for the internet.

I'll also go back to default speed as you suggest and buy a few new IDE cables. Hadn't thought of restoring the fsb to 66, I should also have had a V-8! Thanks for your sensible suggestions.

This is really a bummer.
 

weshuang

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Other than testing the memory, swapping the IDE cable, and testing the HD, does anyone have any suggestions?
 

GasX

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Damn double posts...

I guess that means you should drink VERY heavily
 

weshuang

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That's very helpful. The amusing thing about MWilding's post is, he's the guy who sold me the memory, mobo and CPU.
 

thelanx

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Make sure your dos CD-ROM driver is working correctly. It probably is, but just make sure. I'm not entirely sure if it is possible for DOS CD-ROM drivers to not work, they are usually generic, but if all else fails, check the driver.
 

weshuang

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OK, I guess, practically speaking, that would mean making another win98 boot disk, just to be sure. I'll do it.
 

Big Lar

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Any chance that the drive was originally formated with a 3rd party utility? Or was Partition Magic used on the drive to Partition it? If so, this May be the Problem, Only other thing I can think of, is to check the obvious,ie; fan is spinning on the cpu, Ide cables are firmly seated,etc... Wish I could be more help....