Now I Know Why The Libs Hate Rush

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He speaks for the radical fringe in his party who have become more and more the mainstream of his party. They are the Hate-America First radical left, and I hope the American people get to hear all of this speech. I hope it's played over and over again, for this is how low Gore and his crowd are willing to go to undermine the war effort and our troops and this president to promote themselves and their own agenda and get themselves back into power. Lest we forget, Algore and his boss, Bill Clinton, stood by while the enemy was plotting and planning to murder thousands of Americans.

They did nothing serious to stop bin Laden. They did nothing serious to fight terrorism. They degraded our military. They slashed our troop levels, undermined our intelligence services. Today calls for civil rights for terrorists in his speech while opposing the Patriot Act which helps us find and stop terrorist cells right here in our country, and Gore has said nothing about how he would fight this evil because he's obsessed with hatred not for the enemy but for George W. Bush -- and that's what identifies MoveOn.org. That's what identifies most of the fringe, radical left in this country. They actually think Bush is a greater threat to the people of this world and this country than any thug dictator, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong ll, anybody. They think Bush poses a greater threat, and as misguided as that is, this is what animates them. It is what motivates them and inspires them.
 

wkabel23

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Darn, I forgot Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

Oh and nothing new here, just more nonsense from Rush.
 

Moonbeam

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They actually think Bush is a greater threat to the people of this world and this country than any thug dictator, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong ll, anybody. They think Bush poses a greater threat, and as misguided as that is, this is what animates them. It is what motivates them and inspires them.

Yes so what's the crime with being truthful?
 

MadRat

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Last I checked...

...Clinton gave the okay on at least two occasions to kill OBL, plus left what amounted to a wanted-dead or alive poster out for him.
...credible theories about plane hijacking were presented to the Bush administration after it took the White House.
...Clinton cut bases and operating costs of the military, but left more excess troops than the present administrations.
...we didn't need a Patriot Act to bug foreign nationals within our borders.
...we didn't find post-Desert Storm 1-made WMD's in Iraq to justify the war.
...Ron Dumsfeld and Judge Asscroft are holy rollers that do not let the professionals in their own respective organizations do their jobs.

Plus, from what I heard on the speech it didn't sound all that charismatic. The Repubs are still safe for now, but I fear a teetering if Rummy isn't let go before November!
 

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Rush hit Gore on the head there. I heard it today on the radio.. another example why Rush has 30 million listeners a week.
Perfect analysis. Al Bore turned out to be a FLAKE!

The best point I havent heard any other conservative say is that if Al Bore beat George Bush in 2000.. Then why arent they running him again? :D

Heck, he beat him once! :laugh: Muwahahahaha.. squirming liberals. A bit of TRUTH and they are a 'runnin.

Everyone knows the dude is a flake. He couldnt get elected dogcatcher now.
 

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Universal Truth: More attempts will be seen by both sides to demonize the other side. It is sad and only appeals to bias supporters.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: Format C:
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He speaks for the radical fringe in his party who have become more and more the mainstream of his party. They are the Hate-America First radical left, and I hope the American people get to hear all of this speech. I hope it's played over and over again, for this is how low Gore and his crowd are willing to go to undermine the war effort and our troops and this president to promote themselves and their own agenda and get themselves back into power. Lest we forget, Algore and his boss, Bill Clinton, stood by while the enemy was plotting and planning to murder thousands of Americans.

They did nothing serious to stop bin Laden. They did nothing serious to fight terrorism. They degraded our military. They slashed our troop levels, undermined our intelligence services. Today calls for civil rights for terrorists in his speech while opposing the Patriot Act which helps us find and stop terrorist cells right here in our country, and Gore has said nothing about how he would fight this evil because he's obsessed with hatred not for the enemy but for George W. Bush -- and that's what identifies MoveOn.org. That's what identifies most of the fringe, radical left in this country. They actually think Bush is a greater threat to the people of this world and this country than any thug dictator, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong ll, anybody. They think Bush poses a greater threat, and as misguided as that is, this is what animates them. It is what motivates them and inspires them.

*YAWN*

Sorry, no more cookies for you. You ate them all.


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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): pulling the wool over America's eyes since 1980
 

chess9

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"He speaks for the radical fringe in his party who have become more and more the mainstream of his party."

How does one get past the first sentence? Is Gore the radical fringe of his party or the mainstream of his party? Sorry, Rush, you can't have it both ways.

What amazes me is that people who think they have a brain read and listen to this pap and respond emotionally and non-critically. "Cast a cold eye on life, on death."


-Robert
 

0roo0roo

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If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
JOSEPH GOEBBELS
German political leader and Minister of Propaganda
(1897 - 1945)

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/propaganda_in_nazi_germany.htm
 

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Oroo:

That is one of my favorite quotes. Every true believer should be required to have it tattooed on their left forearm. :) :) :)
j/k (I know, lousy joke.)

-Robert
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Edge3D
Rush hit Gore on the head there. I heard it today on the radio.. another example why Rush has 30 million listeners a week.
Perfect analysis. Al Bore turned out to be a FLAKE!

The best point I havent heard any other conservative say is that if Al Bore beat George Bush in 2000.. Then why arent they running him again? :D

Heck, he beat him once! :laugh: Muwahahahaha.. squirming liberals. A bit of TRUTH and they are a 'runnin.

Everyone knows the dude is a flake. He couldnt get elected dogcatcher now.

You're right, he did beat Bush, the numbers don't lie. Unfortunately we are not a democracy so our vote is secondary to corporate influence :p Bush is the golden child for tax evading environmental regulation dodging elitist corporate interests.
 

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Originally posted by: Bowmaster
They did nothing serious to stop bin Laden

This sounds like a compaint about Bush, not the democrats.

Haven't you heard? Being in office on 9/11 means you're strong on terrorism by default! Even if you focused hardly any resources on it before hand!
 

leeboy

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Originally posted by: Edge3D
Rush hit Gore on the head there. I heard it today on the radio.. another example why Rush has 30 million listeners a week.
Perfect analysis. Al Bore turned out to be a FLAKE!

The best point I havent heard any other conservative say is that if Al Bore beat George Bush in 2000.. Then why arent they running him again? :D

Heck, he beat him once! :laugh: Muwahahahaha.. squirming liberals. A bit of TRUTH and they are a 'runnin.

Everyone knows the dude is a flake. He couldnt get elected dogcatcher now.

Pft.

Tick tock tick tock.... your time is running out cons.

:roll:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Darn, I forgot Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

Oh and nothing new here, just more nonsense from Rush.

Anyone who puts *any* credence in anything uttered by one of the AM talk radio heads needs to be beaten tirelessly with a cluestick.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
They did nothing serious to stop bin Laden

This sounds like a compaint about Bush, not the democrats.

Haven't you heard? Being in office on 9/11 means you're strong on terrorism by default! Even if you focused hardly any resources on it before hand!

Or afterward!!
 

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I don't think any of you seem to remember Gore's past speeches against Saddam, in 1998 against the weapons that Saddam had, etc... There are no less than five recorded speeches in which Gore if stood next to Bush in 2002 would have sounded the same. Now, he has flopped again - like he has always done. The problem with the left is that they have never been consistant.

Nor do they care whatsoever about the troops that are fighting. They have shown their disregard for the troops since Vietnam. Some things should be said, and others for the sake of unity and morale need not be said. Gore has just given me proof of why it is good he was not president.

It is also true, there were more terror attacks in US history during the Clinton years. Where was their solution? There were more soldiers in the field during the Clinton years. Where are they now? Still out there. Clinton/Gore had the largest troop deployment since Vietnam and at the same time cut the military by the largest margin ever. I would challenge you guys to argue the facts here. Clinton/Gore literally stood still for eight years watching the threat grow. Blaming Bush for 911 is a joke, how about the fools who stood idle while the threat loomed.

And get you f-ing facts straight. Clinton DID NOT give the go ahead to kill bin ladin. He gave the go ahead to arrest him, only after a judge released a warrant. Because this was how Clinton was to deal with terror - get a warrant, give it to either the FBI or CIA, (but not both - and no, they could not talk between themselves) then try to arrest these people without harming them. Idiot. And anyone that thinks this works (like it has so well between 1960 and 2000) is also an idiot.



Call me brainwashed. But I would wager that half of you are under 15 and thereby have too small of a world view to have any idea and the other half or college students that are being indoctinated as we speak. As soon as all of you hit the magic age of 25 you will see what the world is all about. It is not some stupid game where only the nice guys win.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They actually think Bush is a greater threat to the people of this world and this country than any thug dictator, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong ll, anybody. They think Bush poses a greater threat, and as misguided as that is, this is what animates them. It is what motivates them and inspires them.

Yes so what's the crime with being truthful?

You've got an amazing ablility to delude yourself and ignore the FACTS. Carrying a burden as heavy as this you still have the temarity to claim that you know the "truth." Truly amazing! :disgust:
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: irwincur
I don't think any of you seem to remember Gore's past speeches against Saddam, in 1998 against the weapons that Saddam had, etc... There are no less than five recorded speeches in which Gore if stood next to Bush in 2002 would have sounded the same. Now, he has flopped again - like he has always done. The problem with the left is that they have never been consistant.

Yeah, liberals have a sense of decency and will admit when they are wrong or have been lied to. However your conservative friends will continue to recite the same lie over and over like a broken record. Just look at Cheney, is he still insisting al Qaeda had ties with Saddam?

Nor do they care whatsoever about the troops that are fighting. They have shown their disregard for the troops since Vietnam. Some things should be said, and others for the sake of unity and morale need not be said. Gore has just given me proof of why it is good he was not president.

Dissent is necessary for a healthy republic. Just ask the founding fathers. Maybe you mistaken this country from the one Stalin used to run?

Call me brainwashed. But I would wager that half of you are under 15 and thereby have too small of a world view to have any idea and the other half or college students that are being indoctinated as we speak. As soon as all of you hit the magic age of 25 you will see what the world is all about. It is not some stupid game where only the nice guys win.

No I won't call you brainwashed, just an extreme partisan clown. Just look at how you try to pre-empt disagreement with your wild rants on liberals: you are already labelling anyone who would disagree with your view as either "under 15 and thereby have too small of a world view to have any idea and the other half or college students that are being indoctinated as we speak. "

I have hit the "magic age of 25" and sadly I do not share your same biased world view, so since that premise is wrong your entire post is wrong. (just using your logic here, check another thread you posted in for clarification if you are confused).
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: irwincur
I don't think any of you seem to remember Gore's past speeches against Saddam, in 1998 against the weapons that Saddam had, etc... There are no less than five recorded speeches in which Gore if stood next to Bush in 2002 would have sounded the same. Now, he has flopped again - like he has always done. The problem with the left is that they have never been consistant.
The intelligence hasn't changed since 1998, eh? Hmm...news to me. Seems to me, back in 1998, we all really did think Saddam had WMDs and effective programs. Well, after the inspectors were back in the country in 2002 and David Kay reported, essentially, that Saddam had nothing of consequence and that "we were all wrong", anything said before goes out the window. We have to look at what was said after that. The Iraq on the Record database shows the Bush administration still clearly pushing their agenda that WMDs not only existed, but they knew where they were! Hmm...well....14 months later and they have found bupkis!


Nor do they care whatsoever about the troops that are fighting. They have shown their disregard for the troops since Vietnam. Some things should be said, and others for the sake of unity and morale need not be said. Gore has just given me proof of why it is good he was not president.
How has anyone shown disregard for the troops? Take the criminals abusing the prisoners out of the picture and you have an incredible military force, filled with brave men and women.


It is also true, there were more terror attacks in US history during the Clinton years. Where was their solution? There were more soldiers in the field during the Clinton years. Where are they now? Still out there. Clinton/Gore had the largest troop deployment since Vietnam and at the same time cut the military by the largest margin ever. I would challenge you guys to argue the facts here. Clinton/Gore literally stood still for eight years watching the threat grow. Blaming Bush for 911 is a joke, how about the fools who stood idle while the threat loomed.
No one knew the extent and complexity of the Al Qaeda network until the late 90s. bin Laden was thought of as just the Financier. It wasn't known how organized and lethal Al Qaeda was. You should watch the PBS Frontline video on John O'Neill - an EXCELLENT piece of work. By then, Clinton was trying to do his best but kept running into walls with the Pentagon and the CIA, and with the Republicans criticizing him for "wagging the dog".


And get you [sic] f-ing facts straight. Clinton DID NOT give the go ahead to kill bin ladin. He gave the go ahead to arrest him, only after a judge released a warrant. Because this was how Clinton was to deal with terror - get a warrant, give it to either the FBI or CIA, (but not both - and no, they could not talk between themselves) then try to arrest these people without harming them. Idiot. And anyone that thinks this works (like it has so well between 1960 and 2000) is also an idiot.
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http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030804fa_fact

Clarke told me that in the mid-nineties ?the C.I.A. was authorized to mount operations to go into Afghanistan and apprehend bin Laden.? President Clinton, Clarke said, ?was really gung-ho? about the scenario. ?He had no hesitations,? he said. ?But the C.I.A. had hesitations. They didn?t want their own people killed. And they didn?t want their shortcomings exposed. They really didn?t have the paramilitary capability to do it; they could not stage a snatch operation.? Instead of trying to mount the operation themselves, Clarke said, ?the C.I.A. basically paid a bunch of local Afghans, who went in and did nothing.?

In 1998, Al Qaeda struck the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing more than two hundred people. In retaliation, Clinton signed a secret Presidential finding authorizing the C.I.A. to kill bin Laden. It was the first directive of this kind that Clarke had seen during his thirty years in government

After the 1998 fiasco, Clinton secretly approved additional Presidential findings, authorizing the killing not just of bin Laden but also of several of his top lieutenants, and permitting any private planes or helicopters carrying them to be shot down. These directives led to nothing. ?The C.I.A. was unable to carry out the mission,? Clarke said. ?They hired local Afghans to do it for them again.? The agency also tried to train and equip a Pakistani commando force and some Uzbeks, too. ?The point is, they were risk-averse,? he said. Tenet was ?eager to kill bin Laden,? Clarke said. ?He understood the threat. But the capability of the C.I.A.?s Directorate of Operations was far less than advertised. The Directorate of Operations would like people to think it?s a great James Bond operation, but for years it essentially assigned officers undercover as diplomats to attend cocktail parties. They collected information. But they were not a commando unit that could go into Afghanistan and kill bin Laden.?

You were saying???


Call me brainwashed. But I would wager that half of you are under 15 and thereby have too small of a world view to have any idea and the other half or college students that are being indoctinated as we speak. As soon as all of you hit the magic age of 25 you will see what the world is all about. It is not some stupid game where only the nice guys win.
Ok, you're brainwashed.
 

laFiera

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I have hit the "magic age of 25" and sadly I do not share your same biased world view, so since that premise is wrong your entire post is wrong. (just using your logic here, check another thread you posted in for clarification if you are confused).

dude, thanks for making my day!!!!

25 and unbiased world views...what world news do you read by the way????? fox news international???

but for being 25 illgive you credit that you at least keep up with the news...i was too busy chasing the florida women then...darn!!!
:)