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now Hillary got what she wanted - Rockstar changes GTA ESRP rating to AO
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flexy
Diamond Member
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
I think he must have derived his definition of "ironic" from the Alanis Morrissette song.
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
I can't see it. Perhaps if SHE were the one engaged in illicit behavior in the White House, that would be ironic, but it hardly seems ironic that she had a cheating spouse, then spoke out on a "morality" issue.
I dunno, I was just trying to make the case for irony. Personally I see it. A video game with sex in it is deplorable but her husband is not for cheating? Not that I'm a Clinton (Bill) basher; he came to speak at my school this year and was simply phenomenal. Made me want to go back in time just to vote for him 😛
TerryMathews
Lifer
WTH does the government have to do with it? Neither Rockstar, nor the ESRB, are government enteties.
Censorship is the government saying that you aren't allowed to express certain ideas. All that's happened here is that HRC has said that the rating the ESRB gave GTSA is not congruent with the (hidden) content of the game, and the ESRB agreed with her.
Note that Rockstar could maintain the status quo indefinitely with the current rating of AO. For that matter, they could ship games now with the content unlocked from the factory and keep the AO rating.
cyclohexane
Platinum Member
the irony is that the public was fine before the "sex" thing. Apparently carjacking, murder, gambling, and running over civilians are fine, but poorly animated sex is not.
TerryMathews
Lifer
If you understand how the "Hot Coffee" mod works, you'd know that's exactly what they'd set themselves up to do. The disc has the equiv. of a properties file that has a line in it that defines the content level of the game. If it's set for mature, no sex. If it's set for AO, sex.
It'd be like Microsoft having one line, or even one bit, that changed XP Home to XP Pro.
I would say that it is more along the lines of a programmer having:
1) A sense of humor (have you seen the screenshots!)
2) An extreme excess of free time on their hands
3) A strong desire to see some ridiculous scene played out in a horridly underdetailed game engine
or, 4) all of the above
😛
Edit: No idea what the hell I was getting at. Carry on.
shortylickens
No Lifer
They didnt censor.
Rockstar was perfectly entitled to put out an Adult game. They chose not to becasue they knew what would happen to sales. Just like the theatrical release of Basic Instinct was cut down to an R. The studio wanted more money and they knew being the first NC-17 movie would be box-office failure.
And dealing with free enterprise isnt about censorship. Companies have a right to succeed or fail. And they have a right to do market analysis and make judgement calls about their products.
On a side note: I think ol' Hillary needs to play a game with sex in it.
I also believe that sexuality should be more natural and violence should be less natural. But humans will always be scared of their ignorance, and ignorant of their fears.
Rockstar was perfectly entitled to put out an Adult game. They chose not to becasue they knew what would happen to sales. Just like the theatrical release of Basic Instinct was cut down to an R. The studio wanted more money and they knew being the first NC-17 movie would be box-office failure.
And dealing with free enterprise isnt about censorship. Companies have a right to succeed or fail. And they have a right to do market analysis and make judgement calls about their products.
On a side note: I think ol' Hillary needs to play a game with sex in it.
I also believe that sexuality should be more natural and violence should be less natural. But humans will always be scared of their ignorance, and ignorant of their fears.
thomsbrain
Lifer
yes, because all husband's actions are 100% based on the moral convictions of their wives. :roll:
TerryMathews
Lifer
It's still not censorship. They said "You can't have this content on the disc and sell it to minors", not "You can't have this content on the disc at all."
No one says porn is censored, yet it is illegal to sell to minors...
It's fvcked up R"* sold out its fans and blamed them for
creating the hot coffe mod, and basically blacklisting the guy that discovered it
(a veteran GTA modder)
All he did to get hot coffee to work was like delete two lines of code.
It was already built into the game, just disabled.
My friend is a GTA modder and he showed me hot coffee at his house a few days
before it went public. It was easy to do.
Fvck R*
creating the hot coffe mod, and basically blacklisting the guy that discovered it
(a veteran GTA modder)
All he did to get hot coffee to work was like delete two lines of code.
It was already built into the game, just disabled.
My friend is a GTA modder and he showed me hot coffee at his house a few days
before it went public. It was easy to do.
Fvck R*