Now do you think most people are bad, considering the Nov election results?

[PlanetJosh]

I think most people are bad as in evil. Maybe 90% bad imo. Many on the forums think it's much lower of course like 1% to 5%, and some who think it's much lower than 1%. But come on just look at all the Americans who voted for the Republican ticket in November. I'm trying to get you to see that people are not as good as you think they are.

I bet the election result rattled your cage a little about this issue. If anything maybe you could up the percentage in your belief, up another 10% or so. At least some progress. Before anyone gets too upset about this post please read my mitigating circumstances section in the bottom 3 paragraphs which helps explain that I can't prove most people are bad. Atm it's a theory of mine which I've had long before the U.S. general election 31 days ago.

You don't have to commit violent actions to be evil. Take the Netherlands for example. Christ the general population there didn't even object enough to stop the Dutch government from sending troops to the 2003 Iraq war. There is a substantial conservative population there which probably helped to not stop their government from sending the troops. The U.N. didn't even authorize the invasion in the first place.

Liberals all over the world, not just the U.S., are just as evil by ignoring situations that cause millions to die. Like in some African nations for example. Doing nothing while many are slaughtered.

Mitigating Circumstances Section

Because of mitigating circumstances I can't prove most people are evil . For example many of you may have voted Republican in November as the lesser of two evils. Or you believe Trump is not a bad person and in order to further the conservative cause Hillary must be prevented from winning. And putting up with the ocassional offensive statement from Trump may have been necessary for your greater cause.

Also Hillary won the popular vote by over 2 million so this could be an argument against my theory that most people are bad. But remember far more counties in the U.S. voted for Trump. And it's possible Trump could've won the popular vote if there was no Electoral College system and if it was just a straight up majority vote. He could've just campaigned well enough in a few high population areas, leaving the small states in the dust, and winning the popular vote. Hard to say either way imo.

Oh and about the Dutch population not uprising against their government for sending troops to Iraq: there still remains the mitigating circumstance of at the time they believed like many other nations that Iraq had substantial WMD. So it's going to be tricky figuring out which people are bad. I'm not saying any of the mitigating circumstances above make anyone a good person. But it's something to ponder. I think I'm a liberal btw, a registered independent in California, so I'm trying to understand both sides.

 

[theeedude]

‘they’re people like any other people... They love money, but that has always been so... Mankind loves money, whatever it’s made of- leather, paper, bronze, gold. Well, they’re light-minded ... well, what of it ... mercy sometimes knocks at their hearts ... ordinary people... In general, reminiscent of the former ones ... -Bulgakov

 

[Commodus]

I don't think most people are bad. As you pointed out, millions more people voted for Clinton than Trump. And it's oversimplifying to assume that people are malicious or insensitive because of who they vote for.

To me, however, this illustrates a fundamental problem with elections in the US, and indeed in many countries: a lack of critical thinking (and I'm not exempting Clinton voters from this). People were voting with their gut, not their head, and this was an election where using your head was more important than usual.

Take Trump's "we're going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" promise as an example. That one sentence raises all kinds of logical problems. How are you going to make Mexico pay for the wall if it says no, which it did? Since it's saying no, how do you plan to finance the wall? Is a wall really going to fix your problems, especially when Mexican gangs have enough resources that they could likely blast holes in the wall or otherwise circumvent it?

Never mind whether or not you support the underlying policy -- from a purely rational perspective, it doesn't add up. But because the idea of it appeals to a certain chunk of the population, it drove votes. And Trump's problem is that his campaign was based primarily on these sorts of promises... sounds good (to some people) if you only ever look at the surface, falls apart the moment you ask how it'll be done or whether or not it'll actually solve the problem.

 

[JSt0rm]

I think we are as a society very sick. as moonbeam said people hate because it's the emotion they can feel.