Now considering an Intel Core i5 750. Questions about the build.

lsquare

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So after thinking about it for a bit, I'm now tempted to get the Core i5 570. I'm currently running an E8400 with a P35 mobo. I've been thinking about getting a quad core system for a while now. I think a 570 may be exactly what I'm looking for. Do you guys think that this is a good value upgrade or I should be looking at the 860?

Can someone tell me what is a decent motherboard to pair up with this chip? Any suggestions on the RAM?
 
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Tsavo

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What are you considering?

Do you mean Core i5 750?

I have one and it's awesome. Paired also to a Gigabyte P55-UD3R and 4GB of Corsair XMS DDR3. Runs perfectly.
 

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So after thinking about it for a bit, I'm now tempted to get the Core i5 570. I'm currently running an E8400 with a P35 mobo. I've been thinking about getting a quad core system for a while now. I think a 570 may be exactly what I'm looking for. Do you guys think that this is a good value upgrade or I should be looking at the 860?

Can someone tell me what is a decent motherboard to pair up with this chip? Any suggestions on the RAM?

Friend of mine just bought a 750 and this board and within 10 minutes was up and running at 4Ghz. For memory any DDR3 1600 is fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130246
 

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he's coming from an E8400 and just wants to do a little encoding. i'm not sure that a $450 lynnfield machine is the answer to his problem when a $170 Q9450 will really clear things up. If you are going to make the switch for the sake of encoding, you should go all out and get an i7 860. Otherwise a Q9450 at 3.4 GHz will easily last you until ivy bridge.
 

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he's coming from an E8400 and just wants to do a little encoding. i'm not sure that a $450 lynnfield machine is the answer to his problem when a $170 Q9450 will really clear things up. If you are going to make the switch for the sake of encoding, you should go all out and get an i7 860. Otherwise a Q9450 at 3.4 GHz will easily last you until ivy bridge.

Throwing money into a 775 chip is a huge waste of money. Its a dead socket and the 750 spanks the 9450 in encoding

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=50&p2=109
 

alyarb

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i5 does not "spank" yorkfield in encoding. 95% of encoding is done during the second pass and Q9550 at 2.83 GHz (let alone 3.8+) STILL performs exceptionally well, particularly for its age. Comparing the Q9550 to i5 doesn't make any sense because he has an E8400 right now. Comparing it to that, you'll see that he can either spend ~$170 for 85% more performance, or $450+ for 105% more performance (still looking at the second pass in x264), and you can make that $170 stretch much farther than the $450 by getting that york in the mid 3 GHz. Sure an i5 at 4 GHz would be faster, but not $300 faster. If lsquare isn't super serious about encoding and it's only something he does occasionally, spending the extra money becomes even dumber.


Like I said, if he is serious about encoding he needs to go all the way to the i7 860. It is the i5 750 that is the waste of money. If he were coming from a i945 system and just wanted to play games, the i5 would be great, but if this guy, with his current system is going to make a move for the sake of encoding, the only cost-effective choices are Q9450 or i7 860. It's like someone said in the other thread, CPUs in general haven't really gotten a huge speed boost since conroe/penryn. The i7 only shines in a few special cases. I think spending as little as possible on a used yorkfield would be the best thing, it will keep him happy until sandy/ivy and we'll see how encoding responds to 256-bit vectors.

Yes 775 is a dead socket so why not max it out before you toss it aside? That's called getting your money's worth for the socket you bought. His E8400 can still be made to tear up any Phenom II so dismissing this machine on account of its socket is absolutely ridiculous. It's not like you have to make a huge investment in a brand new chip. Used yorkfields are sub-$200 and will do 3.4+.
 
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lopri

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His E8400 can still be made to tear up any Phenom II so dismissing this machine on account of its socket is absolutely ridiculous.
Your closing comment (especially the qualifier you couldn't resist to sneak in) really shows where you're coming from. E8400 can't keep up with Phenom II in encoding, period, let alone multitasking. I have the two sitting in front of me and wouldn't mind running tests for you if you insist.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=56&p2=88
 

alyarb

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Lopri, if you look at the E8400 benches you posted, you'll see that it is faster in the majority of tests except for encoding and cinebench. It can be deduced from these benches that a quad core penryn would easily clean up the three or four tests that the dual core penryn lost, and it is the quad core penryn that i'm urging him to buy. My point was that the E8400 he has right now is nothing to poke fun at, especially for single-threaded work.

We already know encoding is the reason he's upgrading to a quad (be it K10.5 or not). My point with that comment was that you cannot knock penryn's superb performance per thread, especially for its age. Phenom II could hardly keep up with kentsfield in encoding and yorkfield just makes it worse.


If you want a new system for the sake of having a new system, that is entirely entirely different and you should go for it. I know hey zeus is a total new hardware fetishist and you people have your reasons. But if you just want quick, easy, cheap no-frills performance, yorkfield is the answer. overclocks great on a quality P35 board. Otherwise i'd spring for the i7.

For 1Q 2010, it's hypocritical to say you want a wider CPU and then go for the i5.
 
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lopri

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I disagree. A cost-conscious option would be Phenom II, and performance-oriented option would be i5/i7. He's got an aged P35 board, and C2Q is too expensive for what it is. You bring up 'used' market, but that market exists for PII and i5/i7 as well. If you consider the pathetic multipliers (x7, x8, x8.5) of these 'affordable' C2Q's, then the attainable and sustainable overclock isn't too difficult to calculate. If a C2Q with a decent multiplier (say x9) were readily available for below $200, then I might say differently.

Besides which, the OP has requested his options for i5-750, so I wouldn't drag this thread into C2Q argument (or PII argument).
 
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alyarb

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you're right about dragging. i just think the answer is right in front of his face and you guys are distracting him with a solution that is more than twice as expensive and only 10% faster.

if i were paying money for lynnfield i would be dead serious about the 4 ghz OC i was promised on anandtech and buy new parts.

if i were upgrading the CPU for my gigabyte UD4 i wouldn't take it as seriously because fewer dollars would be tied up and buy a used york and hope for the highest i could get. just want to point out Q8400s as well as Q9300 are at ewiz for $156 after a $10 coupon code (WINTER10), ends jan 25. The Q8400 only has 4MB L2, but you can't deny it puts up a high average OC and the AT bench database shows h.264 encoding is affected very little by having 4, 6, or 12MB L2 (believe it or not, Q8400 and Q9450 are practically equal). So yeah, that costs less than a Phenom II 955 and overclocks well above 3.4 GHz.
 
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lsquare

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Thanks for the comment guys. I think alyarb has a point in that getting a Q9450 might make more sense economically. At the same time, I want USB 3.0 and the Gigabyte boards on both Intel's and AMD's platform has it. I think alyarb's post made a lot of sense. Admittingly, I'm tempted to go down that route, but I'm still leaning on a complete new system. The question is whether a i5 750 will get me a 4ghz OC. I would love a quadcore 4ghz clockspeed to rip through current games and video encoding.

As I get older, I think I'm going to be spending less time gaming and more time doing something else. I'm travelling and out more. I just bought a Playstation 3 earlier today just for that. The fact that a console doesn't require constant upgrading makes more of a financial sense for me when I want to game. I love FPS, but I don't play it enough to justify spending hundreds of dollars on a videocard. I rather encoding movies for my Ipod Touch, music for my MP3 player, and just doing other kind of work. This is why my new build will reuse my existing Geforce 9800GT. I just can't justify spending that kind of money on a nice pair of videocards.

If there's one thing that I realize as I get older is that I have a lot more disposable income, but somehow the justification part comes into play that perhaps never factor into the equation when I was younger.
 

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Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
Intel Core i5-750
Prolimatech Megashadow HSF
G.Skill 1600MHz CL7/8 eco
WD 640GB Black OR 64GB/128GB Intel SSD
HD5770 OR HD5850
Corsair HX650 OR HX750(if you are considering CF/SLI in the future)
CoolerMaster HAF922
 
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spdfreak

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You can always get a used Q6600 for 100.00 and OC it to 3.0 just by setting the fsb to 1333. Most 6600's will do 3.2-3.4. Great performance for the money and no other upgrades needed.