November '06 House and Senate expectations

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: loki8481
straightalker, are you one of those people who was convinced that the US would "capture" Osama in October of '04 to ensure a Bush victory?

that entire summer, I remember reading posts from conspiracy theorists who were convinced that Bush had captured Osama a long time ago and was just saving him in captivity somewhere to announce when he needed a bump in the polls.

And if OBL shows up in October of '06 and cries out that he'd been held for two years in a dark dank prison.. what then... Bush says.. nope just found him in Starbucks in down town Istanbul...

It is all about what we each WANT to believe, ain't it..

Except that would mean we forced him to make all of those audio tapes and that we were in cahoots with Al Jazeera all this time. Think about it...

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: loki8481
straightalker, are you one of those people who was convinced that the US would "capture" Osama in October of '04 to ensure a Bush victory?

that entire summer, I remember reading posts from conspiracy theorists who were convinced that Bush had captured Osama a long time ago and was just saving him in captivity somewhere to announce when he needed a bump in the polls.

And if OBL shows up in October of '06 and cries out that he'd been held for two years in a dark dank prison.. what then... Bush says.. nope just found him in Starbucks in down town Istanbul...

It is all about what we each WANT to believe, ain't it..

Except that would mean we forced him to make all of those audio tapes and that we were in cahoots with Al Jazeera all this time. Think about it...

Yes.. I suppose that would mean that as well... guess if we do see OBL's head on Tower Bridge it will be of recent separation... I'll grant you that... can't do less..

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I don't presume to know what the future entails, heck I thought Kerry would whallop Bush in 04' and I was dead wrong.

What I do know for certain is that this country wants out of Iraq. Things are getting so bad most people don't care who they put in office as long as it means we distance ourselves from this quagmire we are in right now.

Don't bet on it. I'd believe ntdz' prognosis mainly because of what straightalker posted (and others have)--any loss of a majority means possible investigations, jail time, and generally the end (for now) of the neocon dream of world domination. I wouldn't at all put it past them to label the majority of Americans "terrorists" (which they actually have) and start gunning them down, all in the interest in keeping fear and their power in place. All they need to do is tell the public that "God told them to do it" and 35% easily would understand and believe.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: catnap1972

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I don't presume to know what the future entails, heck I thought Kerry would whallop Bush in 04' and I was dead wrong.

What I do know for certain is that this country wants out of Iraq. Things are getting so bad most people don't care who they put in office as long as it means we distance ourselves from this quagmire we are in right now.

Don't bet on it. I'd believe ntdz' prognosis mainly because of what straightalker posted (and others have)--any loss of a majority means possible investigations, jail time, and generally the end (for now) of the neocon dream of world domination. I wouldn't at all put it past them to label the majority of Americans "terrorists" (which they actually have) and start gunning them down, all in the interest in keeping fear and their power in place. All they need to do is tell the public that "God told them to do it" and 35% easily would understand and believe.

If you want out of Iraq... vote for the candidate who you believe will do all they can to effect that..
Simple ... I know.. but really it is all of us who can make the difference..
Go out and insure everyone you know gets to the polls... I don't care if you are right left or inbetween... vote... be an informed voter .. and Vote and get everyone there to vote that you know.. Vote Right... Vote Left... but vote.. show the 'leaders' we care... and that if they don't do what you elected them to do.. that en mass you will have them ousted..

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Why we need balloting by descending preference and 'none of the above' plus endless recall elections so no matter who wins they will never serve. In the mean time I will not vote for any incumbent regardless of party. Time to sink the ship to rid it of rats.

I may not always agree with your cause and effect, Moonie, but when you're right I can't argue with you.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Why we need balloting by descending preference and 'none of the above' plus endless recall elections so no matter who wins they will never serve. In the mean time I will not vote for any incumbent regardless of party. Time to sink the ship to rid it of rats.

I may not always agree with your cause and effect, Moonie, but when you're right I can't argue with you.

Wow, are you in a minority. That doesn't even slow down most others.

 

[Termagant]

Originally posted by: catnap1972

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I don't presume to know what the future entails, heck I thought Kerry would whallop Bush in 04' and I was dead wrong.

What I do know for certain is that this country wants out of Iraq. Things are getting so bad most people don't care who they put in office as long as it means we distance ourselves from this quagmire we are in right now.

Don't bet on it. I'd believe ntdz' prognosis mainly because of what straightalker posted (and others have)--any loss of a majority means possible investigations, jail time, and generally the end (for now) of the neocon dream of world domination. I wouldn't at all put it past them to label the majority of Americans "terrorists" (which they actually have) and start gunning them down, all in the interest in keeping fear and their power in place. All they need to do is tell the public that "God told them to do it" and 35% easily would understand and believe.

If ntdz's prognosis comes true it will be because people don't want leaders with looney views like those listed above in power.

label the majority of Americans "terrorists" (which they actually have)

Please explain this.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Link

Well, Lieberman loses the D primary BUT he's now ahead in the polls as an Independent.

August 12, 2006

Senator Joseph Lieberman Senator Joe Lieberman?s decision to run as an Independent sets up a lively campaign season for Connecticut voters. In the first General Election poll since Ned Lamont defeated Lieberman in Tuesday?s primary, the incumbent is hanging on to a five percentage point lead. Lieberman earns support from 46% of Connecticut voters while Lamont is the choice of 41% (see crosstabs).

A month ago, the candidates were tied at 40% each.

Republican Alan Schlesinger earns just 6% of the vote, down from 13% a month ago.

57% of the state's voters view Lieberman as politically moderate while 51% see Lamont as liberal.

Half (52%) of Lamont voters believe Bush should be impeached and removed from office. Just 15% of Lieberman voters share that view.

Overall, 55% of Connecticut voters trust Lieberman more than Lamont when it comes to the War on Terror. Thirty-one percent (31%) trust Lamont.

Thirty-one percent (31%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Lieberman, 18% Very Unfavorable.

For Lamont, the numbers are 19% Very Favorable, 23% Very Unfavorable.

Lieberman still attracts 35% of votes from Democrats. Lamont will have to find a way to trim that number without alienating unaffiliated voters. Lieberman is viewed at least somewhat favorably by 65% of unaffiliated voters compared to 49% for Lamont.

 

[LunarRay]

I think apathy is what cost Lieberman the nod in the primary.. least ways those who'd vote for him were less likely to vote than those who support Lamont..

edit: "State officials said a record number of Connecticut Democrats voted yesterday. Turnout, which typically is about 25 percent for primaries, was about 43 percent."
but that delta turn out really was mostly Lamont supporters...

It is rather obvious when you see the statistical analysis as you have listed above me here..
31 vf.. vs 18 uf.. is a massive advantage.. when viewed 19 vf vs 23 vu... really equates to massive vote tally..