Notre Dame: Is it just me or is this one of the most OVERRATED schools in the country?

[rubenswm]

Yeah- topic says it all. What has ND done that's been to overwhelming in the academic world? Is it just me or has ND built it's reputation based on it's jacked up prices and hearsay of being "prestigious"
This school gets MY vote for the most overrated school of the century.

Rubens

 

[her209]

joe montana?

 

[Eli]

Heh.. Watching Rudy?

 

[rubenswm]

Originally posted by: Eli
Heh.. Watching Rudy?

nah. =)

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Eli
Heh.. Watching Rudy?

In 7th grade Rudy came and spoke at our school. He was a short & fat middle aged balding dude. Hardly inspiring.

 

[rubenswm]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Eli
Heh.. Watching Rudy?

In 7th grade Rudy came and spoke at our school. He was a middle aged fat balding man. Hardly inspiring.

haha. gooooooooo Rudy

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: rubenswm

Originally posted by: Eli
Heh.. Watching Rudy?

nah. =)

Oh. Just thought it was ironic to see this thread, since Rudy is on TNT right now here.. lol

 

[Colt45]

edit: im elite.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: rubenswm
Yeah- topic says it all. What has ND done that's been to overwhelming in the academic world? Is it just me or has ND built it's reputation based on it's jacked up prices and hearsay of being "prestigious"
This school gets MY vote for the most overrated school of the century.

Rubens

Well, if you want to go to a big name Catholic college in the Midwest, ND is it.

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Well, if you want to go to a big name Catholic college in the Midwest, ND is it.

if i wanted to waste alot of money on a catholic school, id go to BC... if i wanted to stay in the midwest... michigan or northwestern...

why have to stay in the midwest, grossly overpay, and be stuck with bible thumpers? might as well invest the money in a business

 

[rubenswm]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: rubenswm
Yeah- topic says it all. What has ND done that's been to overwhelming in the academic world? Is it just me or has ND built it's reputation based on it's jacked up prices and hearsay of being "prestigious"
This school gets MY vote for the most overrated school of the century.

Rubens

Well, if you want to go to a big name Catholic college in the Midwest, ND is it.

so they're really just known for being Cathlolic or what? What's so great about this school?

 

[Amorphus]

I was wondering whats great about ND, too - maybe its their football and the fact that they flaunt their irishness?

 

[conjur]

Is their basketball contract w/NBC finally over?!?!

Could NEVER understand why they were on Sunday afternoons on NBC for years when they SUCKED!

 

[wyvrn]

From what I have seen, their academic standards are excellent. Which is one of the main reasons they have had problems recruiting the blue chip football players the last 10 years. I was accepted there and would have loved to attend, but I could not afford it being out of state. I highly doubt that ND is that overrated simply because they are universally recognized as a great great school. This thead smells like sour grapes. Did you get rejected or are you tired of watching the games on TV?

 

[rubenswm]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
From what I have seen, their academic standards are excellent. Which is one of the main reasons they have had problems recruiting the blue chip football players the last 10 years. I was accepted there and would have loved to attend, but I could not afford it being out of state. I highly doubt that ND is that overrated simply because they are universally recognized as a great great school. This thead smells like sour grapes. Did you get rejected or are you tired of watching the games on TV?

Yeah, but high standards don't make a school great
My question to ND ppl is what makes ND so great? That's all.
Compared to the likes of other high-dollar private schools, their contributions are pathetic.
I got into a conversation with 2 ND fanboys (they dont go there) who got really pissed when I said ND was one of the most overrated schools in the country.

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
From what I have seen, their academic standards are excellent. Which is one of the main reasons they have had problems recruiting the blue chip football players the last 10 years. I was accepted there and would have loved to attend, but I could not afford it being out of state. I highly doubt that ND is that overrated simply because they are universally recognized as a great great school. This thead smells like sour grapes. Did you get rejected or are you tired of watching the games on TV?

heck no, i probably could have got into ND easily.

their academic contributions aren't as striking as other schools in the nation, yet they're ranked 19th? more on reputation as a football school and their alumni donations. i wish US news would post their entire selection info on the top 25 schools online but alas, you have to pay for it.

 

[Lyfer]

There gonna get pwned hard today by USC!

 

[rubenswm]

just an example..businesweek rankings

Part-Time (Fully Employed) M.B.A.:

1. New York University (Stern)
2. University of Chicago
3. Northwestern University (Kellogg) (IL)
4. University of California-Los Angeles (Anderson)
5. Georgia State University (Robinson)
6. University of Southern California (Marshall)
7. University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
8. University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
9. DePaul University (Kellstadt) (IL)
10. University of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Carlson)
11. Boston College (Carroll)
Marquette University (WI)
Santa Clara University (Leavey) (CA)
University of Maryland-College Park (Smith)
15. Babson College (Olin) (MA)
Pace University (Lubin) (NY)
17. CUNY Bernard M. Baruch College (Zicklin)
University of Pittsburgh (Katz)
Wake Forest University (Babcock) (NC)
20. Fordham University (NY)
St. Joseph's University (Haub) (PA)
22. Arizona State University-Main Campus
Pepperdine University (Graziadio) (CA)
Southern Methodist University (Cox) (TX)

Executive M.B.A.:

1. Northwestern University (Kellogg) (IL)
2. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
3. University of Chicago
4. Columbia University (NY)
5. Duke University (Fuqua) (NC)
6. New York University (Stern)
7. University of California-Los Angeles (Anderson)
8. Stanford University (CA)
9. University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
10. University of Southern California (Marshall)
11. Emory University (Goizueta) (GA)
12. University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
13. University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
14. University of Texas-Austin (McCombs)
15. Southern Methodist University (Cox) (TX)
16. University of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Carlson)
University of Washington
18. Cornell University (Johnson) (NY)
Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC)
Purdue University-West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)
21. Baylor University (Hankamer) (TX)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
23. Pepperdine University (Graziadio) (CA)
University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin)

Forbes rates its business school as only a 67% return on investment

1. Harvard University (MA) 100 4.8 4.7 3.60 705 9.7% $109,587 77.7% 88.9% $31,800 1,808
2. Stanford University (CA) 97 4.8 4.4 3.58 716 7.9% $108,840 78.4% 81.7% $33,300 749
University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 97 4.8 4.6 3.49 711 13.1% $107,047 74.0% 89.7% $33,269 1,601
4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
5. Northwestern University (Kellogg) (IL)
6. Columbia University (NY)
7. Duke University (Fuqua) (NC)
University of California?Berkeley (Haas)
9. University of Chicago
10. Dartmouth College (Tuck) (NH)
11. University of Virginia (Darden)
12. New York University (Stern)
13. University of Michigan?Ann Arbor
14. University of California?Los Angeles (Anderson)
Yale University (CT)
16. Cornell University (Johnson) (NY)
17. Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
University of Texas?Austin (McCombs)
19. Ohio State University (Fisher)
20. University of Southern California (Marshall)
21. Emory University (Goizueta) (GA)
University of North Carolina?Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
23. Indiana University?Bloomington (Kelley)
24. Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC)
Purdue University?West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)
26. University of Minnesota?Twin Cities (Carlson)
27. Rice University (Jones) (TX)
University of Florida (Warrington)
29. Brigham Young University (Marriott) (UT)
University of Iowa (Tippie)
University of Notre Dame (Mendoza) (IN) (number 33)

http://www.nd.edu/~cba/011221/press/0104_usnews_rankings.shtml (their own page about how great they are)
This is just one example of how ND sucks in an area where it supposedly excels.

 

[wyvrn]

Well there is a lot of hype around a lot of schools. SMU in Dallas comes to mind. I go to a state school that is ranked higher in academics than they are. I personally think USC and Berkely are overrated as well. In fact many people have stated that Harvard shouldn't even be an Ivy league school becauseB they have much lower standards than say Yale or Brown. What type of contributions are you talking about anyway? Graduation rates, research, what?

Originally posted by: rubenswm

Originally posted by: wyvrn
From what I have seen, their academic standards are excellent. Which is one of the main reasons they have had problems recruiting the blue chip football players the last 10 years. I was accepted there and would have loved to attend, but I could not afford it being out of state. I highly doubt that ND is that overrated simply because they are universally recognized as a great great school. This thead smells like sour grapes. Did you get rejected or are you tired of watching the games on TV?

Yeah, but high standards don't make a school great
My question to ND ppl is what makes ND so great? That's all.
Compared to the likes of other high-dollar private schools, their contributions are pathetic.
I got into a conversation with 2 ND fanboys (they dont go there) who got really pissed when I said ND was one of the most overrated schools in the country.