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Note to self....Do not go swimming in alligator infested lakes late at night

Originally posted by: Nitemare
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Yeah, I know its tragic she died and all, but would she have really contributed that much to the gene pool anyways?
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I don't think that is a very fair thing to say. You don't know this girl at all. She probably wasn't from around the area and what are the odds of being attacked by a crocodile anyway? It sounds like a sad accident to me not the case of a croc. helping to cleanse the gene pool of another idiot.
 
It wasn't a crocodile, they are pretty rare in FL.

I lived in FL for over 30 years and swam in the lakes both day and night all the time and never thought about it for a second.

This was a rare, freak accident unless someone had been feeding that gator and it had lost it's fear of humans. Otherwise, an alligator is naturally afraid of humans and will not go near them. Trust me, I tried many times to antagonize gators as a kid, you can't get very close no matter how hard you try.
 
Its funny people make these assumptions about wild animals. "Sharks dont like human meat it doesnt taste good to them, it must have mistaken them for a seal." IT HAD MISTAKEN THEM FOR DINNER! Same with crocodiles. They work with stealth, so if your bumbling around and run across one and it goes and jumps into the water don't think its afraid of you. It just wants you to get into its hunting area.
 
Originally posted by: Xionide
Its funny people make these assumptions about wild animals. "Sharks dont like human meat it doesnt taste good to them, it must have mistaken them for a seal." IT HAD MISTAKEN THEM FOR DINNER! Same with crocodiles. They work with stealth, so if your bumbling around and run across one and it goes and jumps into the water don't think its afraid of you. It just wants you to get into its hunting area.
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I didn't make any assumptions, I posted my real experiences. Besides, the personality and aggresiveness of an alligator and a crocodile are very different. Alligators will shy away from humans and they normally do not attack something bigger than them. Not so with Crocodiles.

The only time alligators will go after a human is if you're near their nest full of babies.

 
I was watching some program on Animal Planet the other night about the top ten animals that people feared. Alligator was the no. 1 feared animal. Ironically, there were only 2 recorded alligator deaths in the US last year.
 
Originally posted by: Xionide
Its funny people make these assumptions about wild animals. "Sharks dont like human meat it doesnt taste good to them, it must have mistaken them for a seal." IT HAD MISTAKEN THEM FOR DINNER! Same with crocodiles. They work with stealth, so if your bumbling around and run across one and it goes and jumps into the water don't think its afraid of you. It just wants you to get into its hunting area.
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Well if it is any consolation, it didn't eat her (just her arm and gnawed on her torso a little)....sort of like that shark attack a few weeks ago when it just bit off the guys head to sample. Maybe we can carry spare body parts around just in case... :Q

I'm sorry, but this is Florida, Gator Central.
 
I'm glad that there are people to perpetuate stereotypes, especially amongst the non-natives that don't know better. Who knows, maybe if stuff like this keeps up, and the hurricanes keep hitting my beloved homeland I'll be able to return to it someday without it being filled up with rude tourists, drug dealers, thieves, etc. that think Florida is some kind of paradise. I can and did deal with anything Florida threw at me, but the overpopulation of non-native scumbags made me move far away.

 
Originally posted by: CPA
I was watching some program on Animal Planet the other night about the top ten animals that people feared. Alligator was the no. 1 feared animal. Ironically, there were only 2 recorded alligator deaths in the US last year.
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Yeah, amazingly, little bees, mosquitos, flies, etc. kill far more people a year than alligators.
I'll 2nd the alligators shy away from humans, unless they've been fed by someone. My sons and I had an encounter with an alligator that had been fed daily by some old retired guy. He thought it was neat, but when we couldn't keep the gator away from us, we had to give up fishing for a day. (It kept coming right up to shore just a couple of feet from us... my kids were small at the time.)
 
Seems pretty sad to me. Maybe there was no reason for her to expect an alligator in the lake since she was a visitor for one thing . It could have been in the middle of a nice residential area in the city. If she had gone for a swim in the Everglades that would be asking for trouble, though and pretty obvious.
 
Originally posted by: jemcam
I'm glad that there are people to perpetuate stereotypes, especially amongst the non-natives that know better. Who knows, maybe if stuff like this keeps up, and the hurricanes keep hitting my beloved homeland I'll be able to return to it someday without it being filled up with rude tourists, drug dealers, thieves, etc. that think Florida is some kind of paradise. I can and did deal with anything Florida threw at me, but the overpopulation of non-native scumbags made me move far away.
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Non-native? What are you an indian or something?
 
If she had gone for a swim in the Everglades that would be asking for trouble, though and pretty obvious.
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Actually the reverse is true. I would feel safer in the middle of the Everglades swimming instead of a lake surrounded by old wanker's mobile home parks and a golf course. Those gators in urban areas have become more accustomed to humans than their Everglades counterparts.

 
Originally posted by: Xionide
Originally posted by: jemcam
I'm glad that there are people to perpetuate stereotypes, especially amongst the non-natives that know better. Who knows, maybe if stuff like this keeps up, and the hurricanes keep hitting my beloved homeland I'll be able to return to it someday without it being filled up with rude tourists, drug dealers, thieves, etc. that think Florida is some kind of paradise. I can and did deal with anything Florida threw at me, but the overpopulation of non-native scumbags made me move far away.
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Non-native? What are you an indian or something?
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No dumbass, I was born there and am a third generation Floridian. My son was born there too, making him the fourth generation, but I didn't want him growing up in the atmosphere of Disney World, Sea World, and all the other nonsense that goes along with what is Florida today.

 
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Xionide
Originally posted by: jemcam
I'm glad that there are people to perpetuate stereotypes, especially amongst the non-natives that know better. Who knows, maybe if stuff like this keeps up, and the hurricanes keep hitting my beloved homeland I'll be able to return to it someday without it being filled up with rude tourists, drug dealers, thieves, etc. that think Florida is some kind of paradise. I can and did deal with anything Florida threw at me, but the overpopulation of non-native scumbags made me move far away.
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Non-native? What are you an indian or something?
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No dumbass, I was born there and am a third generation Floridian. My son was born there too, making him the fourth generation, but I didn't want him growing up in the atmosphere of Disney World, Sea World, and all the other nonsense that goes along with what is Florida today.
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So you are third generation BIG DEAL! Unless you are an indian I dont see how ANYONE can say they are native to america. End of story.
 
Originally posted by: Xionide
I would swim in the everglades. With a glock 18.
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Obviously you haven't spent much time in the woods if you feel it's neccessary to take a gun to protect yourself from animals. I am a gun advocate and own many guns myself, but it makes me laugh to think about using a gun to protect myself from an animal.

On second thought, after your last post, I understand why you said what you did, because you know little to nothing about living outdoors for any length of time.

 
Originally posted by: Xionide
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Xionide
Originally posted by: jemcam
I'm glad that there are people to perpetuate stereotypes, especially amongst the non-natives that know better. Who knows, maybe if stuff like this keeps up, and the hurricanes keep hitting my beloved homeland I'll be able to return to it someday without it being filled up with rude tourists, drug dealers, thieves, etc. that think Florida is some kind of paradise. I can and did deal with anything Florida threw at me, but the overpopulation of non-native scumbags made me move far away.
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Non-native? What are you an indian or something?
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No dumbass, I was born there and am a third generation Floridian. My son was born there too, making him the fourth generation, but I didn't want him growing up in the atmosphere of Disney World, Sea World, and all the other nonsense that goes along with what is Florida today.
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So you are third generation BIG DEAL! Unless you are an indian I dont see how ANYONE can say they are native to america. End of story.
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So what gives you any type of authority on living with alligators in Washington? NOW it's "End of Story".

 
So you are third generation BIG DEAL! Unless you are an indian I dont see how ANYONE can say they are native to america. End of story.
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Ummm... you are native if you were born there.
 
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Xionide
I would swim in the everglades. With a glock 18.
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Obviously you haven't spent much time in the woods if you feel it's neccessary to take a gun to protect yourself from animals. I am a gun advocate and own many guns myself, but it makes me laugh to think about using a gun to protect myself from an animal.

On second thought, after your last post, I understand why you said what you did, because you know little to nothing about living outdoors for any length of time.
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Hey atleast I am not claiming to be a native floridian.
 
Originally posted by: Thraxen
So you are third generation BIG DEAL! Unless you are an indian I dont see how ANYONE can say they are native to america. End of story.
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Ummm... you are native if you were born there.
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Thank you. A person is considered native of a certain place if they were born there. I guess Xionide has never read an obituary where it mentions where they are a native from.

I think he's just over his head in this argument and is trying to save face.
 
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