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NOT voter suppression - check your lists twice!

allisolm

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Before everyone gets carried away with the idea of some kind of deliberate Oh No! Voter suppression!

"A representative for the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners said officials began working immediately on figuring out why Lucas wasn't showing up in the poll location's list of eligible voters. After a brief investigation, they found out the poll workers accidentally transposed the mayor's first and last names."

They were looking for and couldn't find Lucas Quinton rather than Quinton Lucas.
 

IronWing

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Before everyone gets carried away with the idea of some kind of deliberate Oh No! Voter suppression!

"A representative for the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners said officials began working immediately on figuring out why Lucas wasn't showing up in the poll location's list of eligible voters. After a brief investigation, they found out the poll workers accidentally transposed the mayor's first and last names."

They were looking for and couldn't find Lucas Quinton rather than Quinton Lucas.
Would the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners have done the same for a voter who wasn't mayor?
 
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allisolm

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Would the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners have done the same for a voter who wasn't mayor?
Where I vote, if someone claims to be in the system at a particular polling place and it doesn't show up there, an investigation begins immediately. Don't know what happens in Kansas City..
 

glenn1

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If only there was some way of creating a foreign key data field like the identifier number from a Photo ID to validate the voter rolls against you wouldn't have this problem. Oh that's right Democrats hate actually being able to identify people in a repeatable and standardized way that allows errors like "transposing first and last name" to be mooted.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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If only there was some way of creating a primary key data field like the identifier number from a Photo ID to validate the voter rolls against you wouldn't have this problem. Oh that's right Democrats hate actually being able to identify people in a repeatable and standardized way that allows errors like "transposing first and last name" to be mooted.
Ah yes, far easier to avoid transposition problems when you're typing in a random alphanumeric string as opposed to a name.

That will certainly solve this problem.
 

Fenixgoon

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Before everyone gets carried away with the idea of some kind of deliberate Oh No! Voter suppression!

"A representative for the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners said officials began working immediately on figuring out why Lucas wasn't showing up in the poll location's list of eligible voters. After a brief investigation, they found out the poll workers accidentally transposed the mayor's first and last names."

They were looking for and couldn't find Lucas Quinton rather than Quinton Lucas.
while a minor error, if this weren't the mayor, would people have tried as hard to rectify the problem? i'm not so sure.
 

glenn1

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MO allows you to vote with a driver's license, so that doesn't seem to be the issue.
Per the story on NPR reporting he used his utility bill. IMHO the drivers license should always be the 1st option for checking in voters for practical reasons (standardization and ability to computer scan). Unrelated to voting they should be made available free of charge to low-income folks (voters or not). Then use alternative forms of identification such as having a neighbor with ID vouch for your identity, use of 2 or more forms of ID cross-ref with signature, and as a last resort a legal affidavit that you're the voter you say you are. The obstinate refusal to allow photo ID to be used as a first-line identification tool is not only driven by partisanship, it's capital S stupid and slides the rocker bar way too far to the "easy to commit fraud" setting when it doesn't need to be. The Canadian system of voter identification is an easy model to adopt and way better balances security and voter inconvenience than typical American standards.

 

ElFenix

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Per the story on NPR reporting he used his utility bill. IMHO the drivers license should always be the 1st option for checking in voters for practical reasons (standardization and ability to computer scan). Unrelated to voting they should be made available free of charge to low-income folks (voters or not). Then use alternative forms of identification such as having a neighbor with ID vouch for your identity, use of 2 or more forms of ID cross-ref with signature, and as a last resort a legal affidavit that you're the voter you say you are. The obstinate refusal to allow photo ID to be used as a first-line identification tool is not only driven by partisanship, it's capital S stupid and slides the rocker bar way too far to the "easy to commit fraud" setting when it doesn't need to be. The Canadian system of voter identification is an easy model to adopt and way better balances security and voter inconvenience than typical American standards.

wait, do you think this is really the issue?
 

pauldun170

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Meanwhile, I show up to my polling place.
Walk up, sign next to my name.
Worker confirms signature matches.
I vote.
No id.
No bullshit.
No fraud.
Simple and no problems.
 

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