NOT TRUE: Als foundation admits that 73% of donations are not used for als research

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MrPickins

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ITT: I learned that ATPNers from both sides of the fence can come together to show Linux23 that he/she doesn't understand how running a large organization works. :thumbsup:
 

Oldgamer

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Who would have believed.....robbery by charity??


http://politicalears.com/blog/ice-b...3-of-donations-are-not-used-for-als-research/

We've been duped. America is filled with fun-loving and caring people. The viral ice bucket challenge has combined both our sense of responsibility to our fellow human with fun. And it has been fun! Who didn't love seeing Sarah Palin doused?

But wait? Ice Bucket Challenge donations are nearing $100 MILLION. Where is that money going?
According to the ALS Foundation, not towards ALS.

Over 73% of all donations raised are going to fundraising, overhead, executive salaries, and external donations. Less than 27% is actually used for the purpose we donated for.

According to the ECFA, a charitable watchdog, 27% of donations actually making it to the cause they are donated to is unacceptable. In fact, the ECFA won't deem a non-profit as a reliable charity unless at least 80% of donations make it to their intended projects.

Here's the breakdown of the ALS Foundation's Financials:

14% -- fundraising
7% -- administration
27% -- research
32% -- public & professional education
19% -- Patient & community services

Employee salaries at the ALS Foundation are out-of-this-WORLD!

Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO –$339,475.00
Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00
Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00
Kimberly Maginnis -Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00
Lance Slaughter -Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00
Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00
John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00
David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00
Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00
Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00
Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00

Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..
 

BoberFett

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Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..

Ahhhh, the idiot cometh...
 

Ns1

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Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..

The organization is a charity that employs people. People that get checks in order to pay the bills and feed their families.
 

MrPickins

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Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..

Do you work for zero pay, or do you expect to be compensated based on your skill and performance? :hmm:
 

Capt Caveman

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Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..

Not very intelligent are you. You do know that these individuals could be making significantly more money in salary, stock compensation, options, etc if they were working in the for profit arena, right? Nope, you're stupid.
 
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Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..

Good intentions won't keep your family fed.
 

squarecut1

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This why I make charitable donations at the lower levels. Like donating some of my rice harvest (2 to 3 times a year depending on rainfall) to the local mosque and church for them to give out to poor widows in the area. .

Yes, it is always best to give money or volunteer yourself at the very local level. I do volunteer work for refugee status people and there is Zero overhead. In fact most volunteers spend their own money on overhead
 

brycejones

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Sooo.. all these caring individuals (executives) who were trying to run the foundation were not doing all this out of the goodness of their hearts to help people who suffer from ALS but for the enormous profit they were making from running it. Figures..

Dude, seriously your blind hatred of anyone who makes more than a pittance really detracts from any serious point you are trying to make.

There are major issues in this country but basically saying that anyone who makes more than you think they should is bad or somehow a criminal is just being intellectually lazy. I wouldn't call any of those salaries an "enormous profit" and neither should you if you had any sense of perspective.
 

werepossum

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A non-profit isn't just an organization that doesn't make a profit, it's an organization set up under strict regulations governing donations and acceptable use of funding towards stated priorities that have been deemed beneficial to society (hence the reason charitable gifts are often tax-deductible). Don't think of it as "non-profit," think of it as "not for profit," as in the organization is legally prohibited from making a profit or using the funds raised for anything outside of their agreed purpose. If your only definition of non-profit was "they don't make profit," then General Motors spent several years as a non-profit leading up to their bankruptcy. The NFL being established as a non-profit is ludicrous from every angle and impossible to justify unless you think that having a professional football league is a net benefit to society that should have protection from taxation (a league that pays its commissioner $44 million annually mind you).
At that point it's hard to believe the employees are more than simply undeclared stockholders in a for-profit corporation. Huge salary + bonuses = dividends. Huge severance packages = company buying back your stock when you leave.

EDIT: I don't object to them earning that kind of money, I just don't see why my company's income gets taxed at 42% and theirs is income tax free.
 
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werepossum

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Do you work for zero pay, or do you expect to be compensated based on your skill and performance? :hmm:
Exactly. Properly running a huge corporation regardless of whether it is for-profit, not-for-profit, or charitable is not something everyone can do; it requires a specialized skill set and talents. Were I running the foundation everyone depending on it would be worse off even if they were paying me $40k rather than $400k. I simply don't have the skill set or the experience required to do the job well, any more than I could be an NFL quarterback.

Dude, seriously your blind hatred of anyone who makes more than a pittance really detracts from any serious point you are trying to make.

There are major issues in this country but basically saying that anyone who makes more than you think they should is bad or somehow a criminal is just being intellectually lazy. I wouldn't call any of those salaries an "enormous profit" and neither should you if you had any sense of perspective.
Well said.
 

Stewox

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NO SHIT SHERLOCK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9zyAnDeIiY


By the way, do you really think that "research" is actually what you think it is.

3 million on fundraising, hahah.

Most charities are globalist funds, it's a giant hoax, they have all the money they need to buy all the nutrients for most patients out there to cure or largely remedy the malfunction.


Do you work for zero pay, or do you expect to be compensated based on your skill and performance? :hmm:

... skill ... yeah right

Morality 0/10
Hospitality 0/10
Science 0/10
Honesty 0/10
Deception 10/10
Selfishness 10/10
Greed 10/10
Dishonor 10/10
Crony Capitalist Pig 10/10


The link I provided shows that's it's 73% that went to the cause.

bullshit 90%
salaries 10%
help ALS patients 0%


"Research" could as well be research how to raise more awareness, research how to , do you think it really goes into research how to cure a malfunction when it is already known how to cure it for many years, before it wasn't even happening. Maybe if they spent that "research" on "why is it happening now".

But being on a planet hoax, "research" could as well be a trip to the bahamas for all we know.
 
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brycejones

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Always nice to see crazy show up ^^^

Tell us Stew how do they treat ALS patients in Russia?

You listen to a guy named Ben Fucked?
 
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BoberFett

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How many people do you think would spend 40-60 hours a week doing charity\non-profit work without a source of income?

Dude, his volunteering for 4 hours a year is exactly the same as these people working a full time job for this charity. Don't question it.
 

WHAMPOM

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This article is posted on a satire site and has been debunked by the ALS foundation and Snopes.
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Who would have believed.....robbery by charity??


http://politicalears.com/blog/ice-b...3-of-donations-are-not-used-for-als-research/

We've been duped. America is filled with fun-loving and caring people. The viral ice bucket challenge has combined both our sense of responsibility to our fellow human with fun. And it has been fun! Who didn't love seeing Sarah Palin doused?

But wait? Ice Bucket Challenge donations are nearing $100 MILLION. Where is that money going?
According to the ALS Foundation, not towards ALS.

Over 73% of all donations raised are going to fundraising, overhead, executive salaries, and external donations. Less than 27% is actually used for the purpose we donated for.

According to the ECFA, a charitable watchdog, 27% of donations actually making it to the cause they are donated to is unacceptable. In fact, the ECFA won't deem a non-profit as a reliable charity unless at least 80% of donations make it to their intended projects.

Here's the breakdown of the ALS Foundation's Financials:

14% -- fundraising
7% -- administration
27% -- research
32% -- public & professional education
19% -- Patient & community services

Employee salaries at the ALS Foundation are out-of-this-WORLD!

Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO –$339,475.00
Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00
Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00
Kimberly Maginnis -Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00
Lance Slaughter -Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00
Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00
John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00
David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00
Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00
Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00
Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00

Looks like imagination is outdone by real facts: charity collection is legal if as little as 5% is reaching the stated charity and 95% funds overhead. If you get a call to donate, DON'T, find the charity online and donate direct, the middle man always takes the most juicy cut.