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Not really sure what to do now....Mazda....I hate you!

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foghorn67 said:
Motor mounts at 60k?

I've been hearing a TON of these stories about Mazda. They magically are able to diagnose the problems after the warranty expire. Too coincidental, IMO.
What puzzles me is the dealership doesn't loose anything by doing this. Mazda pays for warranty fixes. In fact they gain some work, (labor).
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I asked a parts guy at Mazda about this and he said they make less money on warranty repairs than their hourly rate. That's why their preference is to not do warranty work (at least compared to non-warranty work).

All the ignition coils on my 2004 MPV had to be replaced, first went bad about 45k, I did that one, then another went bad (and car was not happy) at 70k or something. Had to do front struts at around 70k also (*maybe* over kill and sway bar links would have been enough). I'm at 95k now and about to replace rear brakes for a second time. Thing is well on its way to being nice and rusty also (didn't see salt until 45k). A rear main seal on engine leaked and was replaced under CPO warranty at 80k or so. All said and done not completely ridiculous but hardly legendary reilability, either. It was a cheap vehicle, though. I don't hate it but wouldn't rush to another mazda.

I read about the speed6. Quality was very dicey, volume too low. Seemed a very risky proposition.

BTW a neighbor with a 2002 3 (or whatever they had then) with 151k was about to trade it in last week on a new car and then it up and leaked out of the radiator and before he got it stopped he cracked the engine block or something, car done for 😉
 
imagoon said:
The Speed6 is a bit "CEL happy" but has been reliable otherwise....
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You too? My 2007 has gotten nearly a dozen CELs. The first batch was in a two month period where it would CEL for the gas cap being loose, which it wasn't. In the past half year it will CEL for an intake problem - probably related to my CAI because it always happens if I'm past about half throttle going through puddles of water. Engine will hesitate and then CEL. Sometimes for a day, sometimes for a couple days before the light goes away on its own.
 
Zap said:
You too? My 2007 has gotten nearly a dozen CELs. The first batch was in a two month period where it would CEL for the gas cap being loose, which it wasn't. In the past half year it will CEL for an intake problem - probably related to my CAI because it always happens if I'm past about half throttle going through puddles of water. Engine will hesitate and then CEL. Sometimes for a day, sometimes for a couple days before the light goes away on its own.
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Holy f**k. But, when I was researching it, I just didn't read anything that gave me warm fuzzies about it being a painless vehicle to own so I nixed it as an option.
 
Man...sucks to hear all these stories about Mazda reliability. Even if they are anecdotal, they don't do to well on the empirical studies either. I hate it because they are certainly my favorite of the larger Japanese manufacturers and could easily see myself buying another one.

Of course I just bought an Audi...so clearly anecdotal stories about reliability don't seem to affect my purchasing decisions.
 
Man...sucks to hear all these stories about Mazda reliability. Even if they are anecdotal, they don't do to well on the empirical studies either. I hate it because they are certainly my favorite of the larger Japanese manufacturers and could easily see myself buying another one.

Of course I just bought an Audi...so clearly anecdotal stories about reliability don't seem to affect my purchasing decisions.
 
Seems the 'upsell' on repairs at dealership is getting worse

Its nicethat I have good independant to go to
 
Skoorb said:
Holy f**k. But, when I was researching it, I just didn't read anything that gave me warm fuzzies about it being a painless vehicle to own so I nixed it as an option.
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Honestly is it just the light. The car performs and acts normal otherwise.

From what I understood in the Japanese articles I read, they were erring on the side of caution because they were taking a direct injection engine (new to them), giving it 10.5:1 compression (really high on a turbo engine) and then adding 15 lbs of boost to it. That stresses components and well... the emissions systems. High compression like that produces NOx etc and they had to meet the emissions code. 53k and never stranded me.

The intake thing was a "known issue" that was fixed with a washer. The gas cap one is the other main issue because some of the factory caps didn't seal tight enough for the ECM and it would throw a code. Next time you filled up and tightened it, the code vanishes after 40-50 miles. What they really need is an actual engine "CEL" and "BS emissions crap you can ignore" light.

The engine itself is mechanical beauty if you ever see one apart.
 
After reading several threads like this, I'm glad I chose my Fusion over a Mazda 3. The 3 did have a more upscale feeling on the inside, and the 2.3L was far from gutless, but I needed a trouble-free car to last me several years as I prepare for major life changes (starting a business, buying a house, etc.) and I'm hoping the Fusion will be just that.

Not to mention there have been several complains about Mazda 3's rusting out, and they LOVE to use salt here in CT. At 40.5k and ~2 years old, the Fusion still looks very good underneath. Hell, my girlfriend's 2003 Malibu with 160k looked pretty good when we replaced the fuel pump about a month ago.
 
CurseTheSky said:
After reading several threads like this, I'm glad I chose my Fusion over a Mazda 3. The 3 did have a more upscale feeling on the inside, and the 2.3L was far from gutless, but I needed a trouble-free car to last me several years as I prepare for major life changes (starting a business, buying a house, etc.) and I'm hoping the Fusion will be just that.

Not to mention there have been several complains about Mazda 3's rusting out, and they LOVE to use salt here in CT. At 40.5k and ~2 years old, the Fusion still looks very good underneath. Hell, my girlfriend's 2003 Malibu with 160k looked pretty good when we replaced the fuel pump about a month ago.
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Fusion is basically a Mazda 6...
 
My 06 Mazda 3s is just about to pass 70k miles. Not a single problem. Changed oil every 5k, on 3rd set of tires, still stock brake pads, changed air filter once. That's about it.
 
fbrdphreak said:
Power steering pump and motor mount going out before 70K? Man that is lame.
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yup...it's a wide spread problem too. There is a TSB on both issues also, but most people are already out of warranty when it happens.

Oh well...I am trying to just end it all, but the Mazda guy never returns my calls. I cannot proceed until he gives the dealership the OK.
 
Riverhound777 said:
My 06 Mazda 3s is just about to pass 70k miles. Not a single problem. Changed oil every 5k, on 3rd set of tires, still stock brake pads, changed air filter once. That's about it.
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You are lucky. Go to any mazda forums and read about these issues. it is not uncommon. Also, lots of times, your motor mount is breaking, you just do not know it. The only reason they found it in my car was because it began to leak.
 
Hmm.. You know, they've "fixed" my oil leak 3 times already.. But my car ('07 mazd3) started to smell like burnt oil again. goddamn it...wtf is going on
 
Guess I'm lucky (knock on wood). My '07 Mazda 3 Hatch is still running like a champ at 53k.
 
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