Not really enjoying Battlefield Bad Company 2

[HeXploiT]

Don't really know what it is about BBC2 but I'm not really enjoying it as much as previous BF games. I don't really appreciate the maps as much and the colors blend so much it almost hurts my eyes after playing for awhile. It's like there is no contrast compared to Battlefield 2. I understand the need for camouflage but when everything in the game blends and separating earth from brush becomes work it becomes more of a job than fun to play.
Also the fact that so many things are locked is overkill.
I play as a medic and have to unlock my medic kit?
What is the point of that? So I paid $50 for this game and I want to play 2 hours a week. Therefor it's going to take me a month before I can actually be a medic. Yeesh.

Are the multiplayer weapon unlock cheats on this game punished or is it ok to do this like in Team Fortress 2?

 

[EvilComputer92]

This game isn't anywhere as deep as the previous battlefield games. It's a combination of MW2 and Battlefield. It focuses on small scale infantry combat, not massive scale combined arms battles between 64 players.

The maps suck. I don't know how else to put it. Even Bad Company 1, which I doubt many people on this forum played, had far larger maps that were simply more fun to play. Bad Company 2 maps just feel linear.

The unlocks don't take long to finish. The point is there just isn't as much depth. In BF2 and BF2142, matches were more unpredictable. Many new tactics were discovered years after launch.

The game also seems to have serious balance issues. 8 out of 10 servers will have one team completely dominating the other. It just stops being fun.

 

[gorcorps]

It's basically console fodder that happens to be on the PC as well. I don't see many PC gamers finding it as fun as the older BF games.

Also, a month to unlock your med kit? I unlocked the med kit in less than 5 rounds.

 

[ixelion]

The maps are smaller because the focus is on infantry combat, otherwise you would be spending a lot of time running around

I agree that the map design could be better, and the game does have a kind of over exposed, washed out look. And there are really only 3 environment types dessert, jungle and snow. That being said the environments look fantastic and the sound design is better than anything I have heard.

When it comes right down to it BC2 provides fun game play that rewards tactics and team work - but it does so in an accessible way, this is the most important point, I don't want to drive a heli and a tank, I just want to shoot - this is why I play FPS.

BF2 has it's demographic and BC2 has it's, they don't completely overlap.

As for the unlocks: the classes don't differ that much, the focus is always infantry combat. As a medic your still mainly just shooting people, the healing, like the tanks, gives you that slight edge, but it's not your primary job.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

I agree.

~Dumbed down BF game, MW2 mix
~Nade spamming is the point of this game too, shut up CC Sabathia
~Maps are fucking TINY, they're one funnel
~Vehicle whoring is worse than any other BF game
~Attack helicopters are the only thing that can destroy attack helicopters
~Health is that of a COD game or Halo, it takes like 400 rounds to kill a guy
~You have to unlock things, so veteran players have an advantage over noobs
~More bugs than any game ever. Absolutely ridiculous.
~More packet loss fucking you in the ass than any game I've ever played. There's no point in trying.

Dan AWwwwyeah was my Left4Dead2 buddy. Then he went to that shit and I stupidly followed. I don't understand how he's so fucking good at that game. Everyday in a steam window he gets, "Dude, that game sucks, leaderboards are for fags."

 

[GullyFoyle]

Are the multiplayer weapon unlock cheats on this game punished or is it ok to do this like in Team Fortress 2?

What unlock cheats are you referring to?

 

[ixelion]

IMO the comparison to MW2 is unjustified because there are fewer opportunities for "cheap" kills in BC2, if you die in BC2 it's mostly because you or someone in your squad did something wrong. By comparison, in MW2 you almost expect to die regularly for random and completely uncontrollable reasons, this is because everyone is just running around shooting each other.

This is why when I used to play MW1, we enforced rules like "you must stay within 4 seconds of captured HQ", to maximize tactics and reduce random killing; we don't have to do this for BC2.

Of course the same benefits can be said about BF2.

 

[HeXploiT]

I was guessing about how long it might take to unlock the health kit.
Glad it doesn't take too long anyway.

Haven't looked for the weapon unlock cheats yet. Wanted to find out if they were "legal" before I searched for them.

I do have to agree about the sound. Best sound I've ever heard in a war game. When I do play I love to crank up my 580w logitch surround system. It brings the war home...so to speak.

 

[paperfist]

The maps suck. I don't know how else to put it. Even Bad Company 1, which I doubt many people on this forum played, had far larger maps that were simply more fun to play. Bad Company 2 maps just feel linear.

How does the smaller size of a map equate to it being sucky/not fun to play?!?

You already observed this game doesn't support 64 players... You know what sucks? Running for 15 minutes to get to an objective because the people on your team simply whole a vehicle instead of checking to see if anyone else wants to get in.

And the maps aren't small, they open up as objectives are met.

 

[EvilComputer92]

I'm wondering who here actually played Bad Company 1. Please stand up.

DICE was just lazy when creating BC2. They looked at MW2 sales and said how can we copy this. I don't blame them, because BC1 was underrated in many ways.

They also copied every single gun over from BC1. That's right, they didn't introduce a single new weapon in BC2.

Let's take a look at the map design in BC1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRfQthLPnA

The maps were quite a bit bigger than BC2. Also more importantly what they were was far more open and non linear. In the space that you had available it actually felt like a Battlefield.
This didn't reduce the pace either. Spawning on squad allowed you to stay in the battle, so it never felt like you had to walk 10 minutes to reach the action.

Not to say that BC2 didn't add good things. The kit customization is great. What isn't is many of the things they removed. It feels more like Modern Warfare vehicle edition than anything else.

 

[HendrixFan]

I would kind of agree with many of the sentiments here, but most of the complaints are taken care of if you play on Hardcore mode.

Nade spamming flat out sucks, but with team kill on it almost completely eliminates it. Find a server that has team kill on and nades/grenade launchers/rockets are all used very judiciously.

I used to get frustrated by unloading a clip into a guy and having them survive, only to be knifed and killed with one swipe. Again, on Hardcore mode pretty much any gun can kill with a couple rounds. Instead of people running around haphazardly, shooting like crazy and launching nades everywhere; you have to be careful because stepping out into an opening means near certain death. The entire gameplay is changed as everyone is cautious, both of hitting teammates and getting hit. Squad tactics are rewarded moreso than non Hardcore matches.

Not having the minimap to guide you towards red dots really forces you to study the surroundings and spot people.

Try giving Hardcore a chance before you completely dismiss this game, it made a huge difference to me.

 

[maevinj]

I would kind of agree with many of the sentiments here, but most of the complaints are taken care of if you play on Hardcore mode.

Nade spamming flat out sucks, but with team kill on it almost completely eliminates it. Find a server that has team kill on and nades/grenade launchers/rockets are all used very judiciously.

I used to get frustrated by unloading a clip into a guy and having them survive, only to be knifed and killed with one swipe. Again, on Hardcore mode pretty much any gun can kill with a couple rounds. Instead of people running around haphazardly, shooting like crazy and launching nades everywhere; you have to be careful because stepping out into an opening means near certain death. The entire gameplay is changed as everyone is cautious, both of hitting teammates and getting hit. Squad tactics are rewarded moreso than non Hardcore matches.

Not having the minimap to guide you towards red dots really forces you to study the surroundings and spot people.

Try giving Hardcore a chance before you completely dismiss this game, it made a huge difference to me.

Agreed, Hardcore is the way to go. My only complaint big complaint at this point, is the team stacking and that has really only gotten bad the past week or so.

 

[pontifex]

I quit playing awhile back. tried to get into it but couldn't.

I did like the SP though

 

[shingletingle]

I'm wondering who here actually played Bad Company 1. Please stand up.

DICE was just lazy when creating BC2. They looked at MW2 sales and said how can we copy this. I don't blame them, because BC1 was underrated in many ways.

They also copied every single gun over from BC1. That's right, they didn't introduce a single new weapon in BC2.

Let's take a look at the map design in BC1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRfQthLPnA

The maps were quite a bit bigger than BC2. Also more importantly what they were was far more open and non linear. In the space that you had available it actually felt like a Battlefield.
This didn't reduce the pace either. Spawning on squad allowed you to stay in the battle, so it never felt like you had to walk 10 minutes to reach the action.

Not to say that BC2 didn't add good things. The kit customization is great. What isn't is many of the things they removed. It feels more like Modern Warfare vehicle edition than anything else.

This makes no sense. So you're saying that DICE saw the incredible MW2 sales and then created BC2 in a matter of months and got it out onto store shelves? Uhhhh...ok....

 

[GullyFoyle]

Don't really know what it is about BBC2 but I'm not really enjoying it as much as previous BF games. I don't really appreciate the maps as much and the colors blend so much it almost hurts my eyes after playing for awhile. It's like there is no contrast compared to Battlefield 2. I understand the need for camouflage but when everything in the game blends and separating earth from brush becomes work it becomes more of a job than fun to play.
Also the fact that so many things are locked is overkill.
I play as a medic and have to unlock my medic kit?
What is the point of that? So I paid $50 for this game and I want to play 2 hours a week. Therefor it's going to take me a month before I can actually be a medic. Yeesh.

Are the multiplayer weapon unlock cheats on this game punished or is it ok to do this like in Team Fortress 2?

Forgot to mention, since you played other Battlefield games, if you register your old games on the Battlefield Veterans web site, all the medic sh*t will be unlocked for you.

• On the scoreboard in BFBC2, sometimes I see little white boxes with numbers next to players names. What does this mean? That number is the players Battlefield Veteran rank. It denotes the total number of Battlefield games the player has owned and played, and registered on the Battlefield Veterans web site. You can access it from the BFBC2 main site, via the My Soldier | Veterans Link in the menu bar (you have to log in to see the Veterans lnk).
• What benefits do Battlefield Veterans get when purchasing BFBC2? The class gadgets Ammo Box (Assault), Medkit (Support), Defibrillator (Support), Repair Tool (Engineer), and Motion Sensor (Recon), normally need to be unlocked as you play. But these will be unlocked from the start for Battlefield veterans. DICE's reasoning for making them unlocks for rookies is that it gives them a chance to educate the rookie on the purpose and usefullness of these class unlocks. Veterans should already be aware of this. Source. Also, everyone with a Veteran rank of 1 or more will have access to the M1 Garand Rifle in Battlefield Bad Company 2. Source.

 

[Maximilian]

BF3 is the real deal, just wait for that.

 

[GullyFoyle]

BF3 is the real deal, just wait for that.

Please, share with us what you know about BF3.

 

[looseratlife]

All these day I used to feel that am the only one who feels some of the hit games are boring sometimes.. Hell, dragon ages suck. border lands suck. both just revolve around dodging and killing !!

 

[40Hands]

I like BF2's vehicle combat. I like BC2's infantry combat and destructive environments. Combination platter please.