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Amol S.

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I looked, not much results :( . Some of them require prior work experience. I forgot to mention, I don't know much about cloud, and use virtual box. I don't know VMware ESXi, would love to learn, but my parents are not willing to pay. They tell me that they would teach me that stuff on the job.

Basically, I can start learning those VMware, Cisco, Windows Server, skills after my first pay check.
 

zinfamous

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I thought LinkedIn existed just to funnel specific spam into my "social" tab in gmail. seriously, looking at it now: 67 of 67 emails dating back to April in that tab, all of it LinkedIn, lol.

I haven't logged into that account since ~2009.

When I realized that randos were using it as just some other social network platform, I realized it was garbage. My never-had-a-job-in-her-life Aunt has an account. Her profession is "domestic goddess." People that I added years ago, that have no clue what I do at work and what my actual skills are, started recommending me for every skill that popped up that looked like "science" to them. That's...kind of a big deal because it's important for "Actual science people" to know what specific skills you have, and your actual experience with certain types of experiments. But anyone can just recommend you for anything.

LinkedIn is complete garbage.
 

ultimatebob

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The only people who look at my LinkedIn are recruiters and IT vendors trying to sell me stuff.

That said, I do use it to keep track of my former co-workers. Some of them are managers at large tech companies now, so it will be good to have their contact info for references.
 
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Amol S.

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I am not trying to spam here.


Just trying to get feed back. How are the statistics. I know it may look a bit unformatted, as it was a copy paste from LinkedIn dashboard of that post
The job preferences criteria in the #opentowork was as follows.


  • Job titles
    Assistant System Administrator
    · Assistant System Engineer
    · Information Technology Help Desk
    · Information Technology Assistant
    · Information Technology System Analyst

  • Job locations
    Queens County, New York, United States
    · New York City Metropolitan Area
    · New York, New York, United States
    · Nassau County, New York, United States
  • Start date
    Immediately, I’m actively applying
  • Job types
    Full-time

Bellow is that post's viewer statistics from the LinkedIn dashboard of the post.



Your post posted on October 17, 2020

95 views


Occupation reach 3 people who have the title Software Developer viewed your post
  • Student 2
  • Data Analyst 2
  • Information Technology System Administrator 2
  • Founder 2
  • Salesperson 2
  • Research Analyst 1
  • Information Security Specialist 1
  • Information Technology Support Specialist 1

Origin 17 people viewed your post from Greater New York City Area
  • Greater Atlanta Area 2
  • San Francisco Bay Area 2
  • Providence, Rhode Island Area 2
  • Greater Detroit Area 1
  • Greater Boston Area 1
  • Madison, Wisconsin Area 1
  • Colorado Springs, Colorado Area 1
  • New Delhi Area, India 1
 

snoopy7548

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Considering no recruiters looked at your post, it seems like you need to provide more information, and connect with recruiters.

If I saw that post, I would ignore it. You need to provide your skills and examples of work; just saying "Assistant System Administrator looking for work" isn't really saying a whole lot. How does this differentiate you from some college student?
 

deadlyapp

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You've got a reasonable mix of people looking at your post, but again, people in functional, hiring manager positions are generally not going to take any actions off a LinkedIn post. You'll only get recruiters, and for someone with no experience, you'll likely get no recruiters to come to you.

If you're serious about finding a job, you have to do all the legwork. Job fairs, applying for positions, working with a recruiter, networking events. You're not going to post "Hey I want a job" and anyone going to take you seriously.
 
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Who are you and why should I care?

That's one of the questions you should always be thinking about when you're talking to someone else.


Something I learned about since jumping ship to sales - is you should frame every conversation you have around that particular question - who are you and why should I care? What sets you apart? I've got a line out the door of 50 people that said they have your same skills.




Similarly, when I go into sales scenarios - my job isn't to train them on the subject. It's to identify theri problem points and then specifically hone in on why my solution will solve your problems. Not train them about how our software works.
 

Amol S.

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You've got a reasonable mix of people looking at your post, but again, people in functional, hiring manager positions are generally not going to take any actions off a LinkedIn post. You'll only get recruiters, and for someone with no experience, you'll likely get no recruiters to come to you.

If you're serious about finding a job, you have to do all the legwork. Job fairs, applying for positions, working with a recruiter, networking events. You're not going to post "Hey I want a job" and anyone going to take you seriously.
Does anyone here know any recruiters who work in a big public recruiting firm, professionally or personally, in the New York City area? It would be very kind to share that information with me via a PM please.

I saw more LinkedIn job postings that are too my liking in the locations of my interest, but I am still in the midst of fixing my resume.
 

snoopy7548

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Does anyone here know any recruiters who work in a big public recruiting firm, professionally or personally, in the New York City area? It would be very kind to share that information with me via a PM please.

I saw more LinkedIn job postings that are too my liking in the locations of my interest, but I am still in the midst of fixing my resume.

That information is all on LinkedIn. Just start connecting with recruiters and get your resume out there.
 

deadlyapp

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Does anyone here know any recruiters who work in a big public recruiting firm, professionally or personally, in the New York City area? It would be very kind to share that information with me via a PM please.

I saw more LinkedIn job postings that are too my liking in the locations of my interest, but I am still in the midst of fixing my resume.
My recommendation is not to use a big public recruiting firm. A big firm will have lots of potential hires in their talent pool, and you're going to go to the bottom of the list. Having a smaller recruiting firm, they will likely be more willing to try to find you something since they will have a lot of financial stake.

Either way - a recruiting firm isn't a guarantee of a job - you need to have good interviewing skills, a strong resume, and will need to be hire-able. If you are seen as a challenge for a recruiter, then they won't have faith in trying to find you something.

Finally - don't worry about the location of a recruiter necessarily. Recruiting companies are worldwide. My current job I got through a recruiter based in Scotland for a position in Houston, only because he had worked with my company (which has a global reach) and placed me well into a position that was a perfect fit for me.

Finding a recruiter who specializes in your field is the most important part, the second most is that they have connections within the companies you might be interested in.
 
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My recommendation is not to use a big public recruiting firm. A big firm will have lots of potential hires in their talent pool, and you're going to go to the bottom of the list. Having a smaller recruiting firm, they will likely be more willing to try to find you something since they will have a lot of financial stake.

Either way - a recruiting firm isn't a guarantee of a job - you need to have good interviewing skills, a strong resume, and will need to be hire-able. If you are seen as a challenge for a recruiter, then they won't have faith in trying to find you something.

Finally - don't worry about the location of a recruiter necessarily. Recruiting companies are worldwide. My current job I got through a recruiter based in Scotland for a position in Houston, only because he had worked with my company (which has a global reach) and placed me well into a position that was a perfect fit for me.

Finding a recruiter who specializes in your field is the most important part, the second most is that they have connections within the companies you might be interested in.

Yeah I'll agree with that. I don't know what a large-scale recruiting firm is - but when I was looking for a job and signing up for recruitment stuff I started getting emails and phone-calls from people in India sending me shit jobs of 6 or 12 month term hires for overall mediocre amounts. No thanks.



Also... I don't care if it's via webcam or in-person.. wear a fuckin' suit + tie. I can't count how many times that I've gotten complimented on that and told that the people I beat out didn't wear one.
 

deadlyapp

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Yeah I'll agree with that. I don't know what a large-scale recruiting firm is - but when I was looking for a job and signing up for recruitment stuff I started getting emails and phone-calls from people in India sending me shit jobs of 6 or 12 month term hires for overall mediocre amounts. No thanks.



Also... I don't care if it's via webcam or in-person.. wear a fuckin' suit + tie. I can't count how many times that I've gotten complimented on that and told that the people I beat out didn't wear one.
I'll echo this. At the very least a sport coat, or shirt and tie, even if the general dress code is jeans and a tee shirt.
 

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ive been asked by current employer if i have a linkedin, i said no, bc i dont, if i did have a linkedin, it would be mediocre bc that would be an accurate dispassionate assessment of my lack of accomplishments, i am ok with that mind you. i have a wix page which is kinda neglected, the self promotion thing is a tough row to ho.
 

Amol S.

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Big news today I applied to my first job on LinkedIn.https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/2228578541 I know this job is a quite low level for a masters degree holder, but it was more of a test to see if my resume or cover letter skills work. If I don't get a call then I am waiting for a response from a dm from a felow forumer who I shared the resume and coverletter too also, to tell me what they think of my coverletter or resume. If they thinkits good, then I assume they did not call me because im over qualified. If they do call me, well.... dont know what ot do then. If the fellow forumer tells me my cover letter and/or resume looks like crap, and they dont call me.... well lets say that I have an extra problem added to my list of job hunt problems.

Good night gota sleep.
 

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When i'm jobseeking - something that for 10 years has happened to me nearly once every six months (contract work) - i apply to 2/3 jobs PER DAY.
When i got made redundant during the 2008 iceland bank crash, in just over a year i applied to approximately 3000 jobs. 3000 application, ten interviews, 1 job.
 
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When i'm jobseeking - something that for 10 years has happened to me nearly once every six months (contract work) - i apply to 2/3 jobs PER DAY.
When i got made redundant during the 2008 iceland bank crash, in just over a year i applied to approximately 3000 jobs. 3000 application, ten interviews, 1 job.
I'm the same way. If I'm unemployed I shoot fish in a barrel and apply to anything and everything.

Even if I get a job offer and it's too low of a pay or anything for me to accept then at least I got practice out of it.

Gotta keep polishing the resume and keep polishing your interview skills.
 

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Thankfully in my first job search out of college I only applied to ~10 companies, landed a few interviews, and got one offer. Pay was very good, and I was just looking for the experience at that time. I stayed with that company 8 years and interviewed a few times for outside roles, none of which I applied for on my own (headhunted for all of them) - none were really great fits but I wanted to keep my interviewing skills up, and didn't land any offers with those until the last one, which was an awesome fit and which I easily landed an offer.

If I lost my job tomorrow, I have enough of a network that I could probably land with another company without too much trouble, but I'd still be applying for at least 10-20 roles a day.
 
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Thankfully in my first job search out of college I only applied to ~10 companies, landed a few interviews, and got one offer. Pay was very good, and I was just looking for the experience at that time. I stayed with that company 8 years and interviewed a few times for outside roles, none of which I applied for on my own (headhunted for all of them) - none were really great fits but I wanted to keep my interviewing skills up, and didn't land any offers with those until the last one, which was an awesome fit and which I easily landed an offer.

If I lost my job tomorrow, I have enough of a network that I could probably land with another company without too much trouble, but I'd still be applying for at least 10-20 roles a day.

Heh, my first job out of school was the ultimate in desperation.... I'm a business MIS major. Zero experience under my belt. Zero past jobs/internships under my belt.

Double Whammy - this was in 2010 at the heart of the great recession when jobs weren't exactly plentiful.

Ended up getting a job for a mega-corp tech company doing credit/collections. It actually wasn't half-bad. Starting pay was $46k. 2 or so years in they outsourced half the department to Guadalajara and I was canned.

That's when I used some connections to get the kind of jobs I do today around tax.
 

deadlyapp

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Heh, my first job out of school was the ultimate in desperation.... I'm a business MIS major. Zero experience under my belt. Zero past jobs/internships under my belt.

Double Whammy - this was in 2010 at the heart of the great recession when jobs weren't exactly plentiful.

Ended up getting a job for a mega-corp tech company doing credit/collections. It actually wasn't half-bad. Starting pay was $46k. 2 or so years in they outsourced half the department to Guadalajara and I was canned.

That's when I used some connections to get the kind of jobs I do today around tax.
Gah that's the worst. I came into the market at the end of 2011/beginning of 2012 while O&G was coming back up. Thankfully secured myself pretty well, so when the market took a shit in 2014/2015 I was considered a "high potential employee" and was kept while a handful of others got taken out back. This time around even though I'm a new hire, I'm in a very flat organization and performing relatively well so I wasn't very concerned when O&G took another dive.
 

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I guess I should consider myself lucky. Had a co-op with a company during college, they wanted me back after graduation, and I've been there ever since (12 years).
 
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I guess I should consider myself lucky. Had a co-op with a company during college, they wanted me back after graduation, and I've been there ever since (12 years).

Lucky and smart are 2 different things.

I wish I did the internship game. I also wish someone would have taught me about that more - though it's much more prominent now than it was in 2010. Regardless, ignorance isn't an excuse. r

Anyhow, still found my way through the system. The key to the game is.... keep moving. Never get complacent. Companies are just like people - they will take advantage of you if they can.
 

snoopy7548

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Lucky and smart are 2 different things.

I wish I did the internship game. I also wish someone would have taught me about that more - though it's much more prominent now than it was in 2010. Regardless, ignorance isn't an excuse. r

Anyhow, still found my way through the system. The key to the game is.... keep moving. Never get complacent. Companies are just like people - they will take advantage of you if they can.

Yeah. My college had a co-op program, where you had to do two co-ops in order to graduate - one during your Junior year and one during your Senior year. Both years were full years, so you went to class in the summer and had your co-op over the spring semester (Junior year) and fall semester (Senior year). It pretty much guaranteed everyone a job after graduation, which was a boon considering my class graduated just in time for the 2008 recession.

I feel that I'm sort of at a crossroads. Over the 12 years at my job, I've been constantly moving, going through three promotions and holding five different positions. But it seems politics have been taking over parts of the company and I've been caught in the crossfire, so I'm considering jumping ship.