FerrelGeek
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No, that waste plant is named after your hero Bush.
Epic fail.
No, that waste plant is named after your hero Bush.
Many of our congressmen and women WOULD advocate a single-payer system if there weren't so many of those wacko, free-enterprise-orgasmic bible-thumpers out there.
Not that all bible-thumpers are wacko (or orgasmic). But too many of them are.
I pay $350 a month now and cannot afford to go to the doctor since the insurance covers nothing.
You tell me, will the Messiah's version be better?
I'd like to at least give it a try.
Oh, so you don't have to pay medicare taxes? So being forced to pay for health care that you can't use = constitutional, but being forced to pay for health care that you CAN use = unconstitutional.
Gotcha.
I hope you do not meet the requirements for the government option, and your current insurance premiums increase.
If he doesn't get a benefit then he should go elsewhere.
I'm suspecting that he has a deductible.
$900? What did she pay for the meds?
Yes, $2,500 deductible
It's Blue Cross and useless.
When used to go to Drug store it was $300 a month just for the statin (Crestor) alone. Now go to Wal mart and down to $170 a month.
Yes, $2,500 deductible
It's Blue Cross and useless.
When used to go to Drug store it was $300 a month just for the statin (Crestor) alone. Now go to Wal mart and down to $170 a month.
As has been mentioned in previous threads, no it won't. The IRS does not pursue tax liabilities in the amounts we are talking with jail time.
You dont have RX coverage? Thats like full retail.
That's about what I figured. Understand that any plan (including single payor) will most likely have something very much like that.
If you are cash strapped, WallyWorld is a good place to shop for meds. Pharmacy has become a loss-leader there for the rest of the store. Might as well take advantage of it.
But will I be able to afford to go the doctor?
My wife went recently for ordinary check up and prescription renewal and it cost $900.
So are you saying it will be $900 a month? $1,800 a month for two?
What will it be?
I don't know if you've used one of these, but there is a way to get a month of Crestor for free, and discounts on future purchases.
Hey, it's something. I don't give a shit about politics. I want to see good health care, so I'm a hard sell.
Anyway
https://www.crestor.com/c/take-action-kit/index.aspx
The IRS may not toss people with tax liabilities into jail for small amounts of money, but they certainly have the option to do it. It's always a threat that they can hold over their victims as they pursue tax liabilities and penalties. The threat is there and it's a valid threat of incarceration for not paying your health care bill.
Socialism simply does not work. History shows this over and over.
Two comments:
If you are on the up and up - then :
a) You have done a lousy job shopping for insurance or
b) You have a pre-existing condition that is shafting you.
I pay $600/month for my insurance as a small business for wife and myself w/ a $50 copay.
Meds are $25 max - most we get at WallyWorld for $4-$10.
Even if you are getting coverage through youremployer - it is lousy enough, that I would recommend that you shop for personal. Aetna, Cigna, MidWest are a few options other than BC/BS
If you are exagerating for sympathy or chain pulling
Go back to TFNN or ABT
Most areas have medical clinics where you can see the MD or PT for a small fee. Before insurance, I would pay $25 copay and $60/month for use of the clinic. That would also cover initial Xrays
And a person in jail/prison isn't earning any money, so can't pay.
Are you refuting what I am saying or are you just attacking me because you cant?
Socialism simply does not work. History shows this over and over.
well, except for those few isolated cases of the rest of the civilized world.
I imagine someone will try, and they will almost certainly lose. If Medicare is constitutional (and it is), then this is easily so.
(I'm a tax CPA) No, the IRS cannot put you in jail for not paying (unless it's criminal tax fraud and that's quite rare). Non payment of taxes and/or fines is a civil violation. Only criminal violations can result in jail.
OTOH, the IRS has very powerful collection tools. They can grab your money or property to settle amounts due.
If a HC bill passed authorizing jail time, I must assume that bill would have to classify non-payment of the fine as a criminal matter. Since it would (apparently) be a federal crime I believe you'd have to go to a federal facility (a fed prison, since I don't believe the feds have any jails).
Anyway, the concept of debtors prison was repusive to our Founding Fathers, and I cannot see this 'jail' time idea passing into law. Not only would it cause an outrage, but it's too stupid. It would be incredibly costly and terribly ineffective. Jails/prison are quite costly, not to mention the lawyers and court time. And a person in jail/prison isn't earning any money, so can't pay. No, they'd be much better off to just use powerful collection tools to enforce payment (heck, even that's costly).
Fern
The insurance took like $25 off, like I said fucking useless considering how much a month I pay.
Thank you for the clarification Fern, i was wrong earlier.
Yes, $2,500 deductible
It's Blue Cross and useless.
When used to go to Drug store it was $300 a month just for the statin (Crestor) alone. Now go to Wal mart and down to $170 a month.