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[norseamd]

The Saudi government just took up the request of the fleeing president of Yemen and started bombing the Shiites. This looks like it might not turn out that well. Only thing to do is break up Yemen into the original countries with the old borders so that the various sects do not have to fight for political representation. Also ISIS is bombing everywhere to try and get a foothold in the area using the Shiites as FUD to recruit the local Sunni population into supporting and fighting for the ISIS Jihadists.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-takeover-houthis/+&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[boomerang]

Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

 

[norseamd]

Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

Bah. He has about another hundred situations of bullshit going on in the world right now so I doubt he cared much about Yemen in the last year or so. You would probably want to look at who was in the state department and DOD to see why this was not given due discussion or concern. Quite frankly this goes back to Saleh and his invasion and annexation of South Yemen into North Yemen just for power gain or some other pure bullshit.

 

[touchstone]

it looks like the Saudis and AQAP are going to help each other out here. the Saudis are not our allies any more than Israel, they have their own totally separate and often contrary objectives. much like the saudis, the SIGINT reports on our relationship with israeli intelligence show that they have done almost nothing for the US while we have over and over saved their asses:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...l-directly-contradicted-secret-nsa-documents/


the saudis are also uniquely similar to the isrealis in that they both are terrorist-supporting nations that are involved in death and destruction worldwide. they are also both nations that have completely opposite interests security-wise to the US, but have other reasons why we are allied with them; with israel it is the jewish lobby that is the only real reason we support such a terribly criminal nation. with the saudis it is pure $ because of oil. isreal with its military and saudis with their wahabbi philosophy are dragging the world into war.

i suggest we remove the saudi monarchy and the israeli government both. occupy them with US troops and make them stop being massive assholes.

 

[nickqt]

Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

Yes, let's bring up what a President says at time A, compared to what happens later, at time B, as telling a lie.

Of course, you have zero reading comprehension, so this is no surprise.

Carry on!

P.S. Before you cream yourself regarding the above picture and how the banner was for the ship and not the war itself, I quote your personal hero Bush II:

"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
Bush II - 05.01.2003

 

[Harabec]

blah blah

You're actually using a thread about Yemen to piss on Israel with your delusions? heh...

 

[unokitty]

Mar 25, 2015: White House Continues to Back Yemen as Model For Successful Counterterrorism

The White House continues to hail Yemen -- a country that is descending into chaos -- as a model for fighting extremism, Press Secretary Josh Earnest said today.

“The White House does continue to believe that a successful counter-terrorism strategy is one that will build up the capacity of the central government to have local fighters on the ground to take the fight to extremists in their own country,” Earnest told reporters at the White House. “That is a template that has succeeded in mitigating the threat that we face from extremists in places like Yemen.”

President Obama has long pointed to the counterterrorism campaign in Yemen as a model for the fight against ISIS.

Don't people believe anymore?

 

[nickqt]

Mar 25, 2015: White House Continues to Back Yemen as Model For Successful Counterterrorism


Don't people believe anymore?

Are you saying that the rebels in Yemen are terrorists?

So, which rebel groups are terrorists, and which are not terrorists, since you seem to be an expert in foreign policy?

Or are they all terrorists, except for whomever you say aren't terrorists?

 

[rudder]

Yes, let's bring up what a President says at time A, compared to what happens later, at time B, as telling a lie.

Of course, you have zero reading comprehension, so this is no surprise.

Carry on!

P.S. Before you cream yourself regarding the above picture and how the banner was for the ship and not the war itself, I quote your personal hero Bush II:

"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
Bush II - 05.01.2003

But But Bush! I guess it is a good thing for the next president to follow a president like obama. Since obama is such a failure whatever the next president does we can all shout "but but obama!" and nothing will matter.

 

[nickqt]

But But Bush! I guess it is a good thing for the next president to follow a president like obama. Since obama is such a failure whatever the next president does we can all shout "but but obama!" and nothing will matter.

Hilarious.

The person I quoted said that clearly this President is a liar and a sociopath because he tells lies, because something said at time A wasn't necessarily true at time B.

I counter by saying that I think it's a mistake to call it a lie when a President says something at time A that isn't true at time B. And I give an example of a previous President saying something at time A that wasn't true at time B.

And all you can do is screech, holler and slobber about how bad Obama is, because, uh, that's all you got.

Keep on keepin' on!

 

[maddogchen]

A coalition of Sunni states ganging up on Yemen. Crazy.

The Sunni-Shiite conflict is escalating....exciting times.

 

[theeedude]

ODS is strong in this one.

 

[norseamd]

The Sunni-Shiite conflict is escalating....exciting times.

Yep. This is probably not going to turn out well at all.

 

[UNCjigga]

Hilarious.

The person I quoted said that clearly this President is a liar and a sociopath because he tells lies, because something said at time A wasn't necessarily true at time B.

I counter by saying that I think it's a mistake to call it a lie when a President says something at time A that isn't true at time B. And I give an example of a previous President saying something at time A that wasn't true at time B.

And all you can do is screech, holler and slobber about how bad Obama is, because, uh, that's all you got.

Keep on keepin' on!

So, in perhaps a misguided effort to get back on topic, let's be clear that what's going on in Yemen is in no way linked to Obama's policies in Yemen or operations carried out in Yemen. That's a major distinction compared to what's happening in Iraq (Bush's "fault"), Afghanistan (Bush and Obama's "fault") or Libya/Syria (Obama's "fault".)

My uncle's family was based in Yemen back in the 90s when he was working for Big Oil--they had to flee in a hurry when the various Aden and Sanaa factions fought last time and the country was "unified". Most of Yemen doesn't even affiliate that closely with the armed tribes, but the armed tribes are major political actors, and now with ISIS and Houthi aggression combined with bad central government policies they are rising up again and forming alliances against the central government. Unfortunately, ISIS is using this to recruit to counter the Shiites, but that's the only link between what's going on in Yemen and terrorism.

 

[Jaskalas]

Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

The ground situation changes.

Please provide us where Obama trumpeted Yemen after the Houthis took over?
Opps... I should have read this first:

Mar 25, 2015: White House Continues to Back Yemen as Model For Successful Counterterrorism


Don't people believe anymore?

 

[Moonbeam]

Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerang
Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

The ground situation changes.
Please provide us where Obama trumpeted Yemen after the Houthis took over?

You mean that boomerang is the party who owns the psychosis? It's what I th0ught.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's just that...if Rudy Giuliani said NYC is a safe place in 2000... then if people attacked what he said, intimating how stupid or what a failure he was after 2001.

The Houthis are their own thing. Like, what's the connection to Obama and Yemen falling? What did Obama do wrong - that you wanted him to do instead?

 

[zinfamous]

Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

wow. only one post before the Obamagasket.

nice.

 

[boomerang]

wow. only one post before the Obamagasket.

nice.

It's a piece of cake when you invest the time to keep up with current events. You'll be hearing Obama blamed for everything for the rest of your life. No time better than now to get adjusted to it. It's how politics is done these days.

 

[Jaskalas]

And what Obama policy decisions do you disagree with in Yemen?

 

[MongGrel]

The Saudi government just took up the request of the fleeing president of Yemen and started bombing the Shiites. This looks like it might not turn out that well. Only thing to do is break up Yemen into the original countries with the old borders so that the various sects do not have to fight for political representation. Also ISIS is bombing everywhere to try and get a foothold in the area using the Shiites as FUD to recruit the local Sunni population into supporting and fighting for the ISIS Jihadists.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-takeover-houthis/+&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Heh, really ?

All hell breaking loose over there atm it looks.

 

[MongGrel]

Obama told the nation and the world that the war on terror was a success in Yemen and yet here we are. What exactly drives this man to tell so many lies? Is it just ego or is there some form of psychosis involved too?

Yes, let's bring up what a President says at time A, compared to what happens later, at time B, as telling a lie.

Of course, you have zero reading comprehension, so this is no surprise.

Carry on!

P.S. Before you cream yourself regarding the above picture and how the banner was for the ship and not the war itself, I quote your personal hero Bush II:

"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
Bush II - 05.01.2003

That pretty much sums that one up.

 

[MongGrel]

Hilarious.

The person I quoted said that clearly this President is a liar and a sociopath because he tells lies, because something said at time A wasn't necessarily true at time B.

I counter by saying that I think it's a mistake to call it a lie when a President says something at time A that isn't true at time B. And I give an example of a previous President saying something at time A that wasn't true at time B.

And all you can do is screech, holler and slobber about how bad Obama is, because, uh, that's all you got.

Keep on keepin' on!

You need to grow up, grasshopper.

 

[Omar F1]

The Saudi government just took up the request of the fleeing president of Yemen and started bombing the Shiites. This looks like it might not turn out that well. Only thing to do is break up Yemen into the original countries with the old borders so that the various sects do not have to fight for political representation. Also ISIS is bombing everywhere to try and get a foothold in the area using the Shiites as FUD to recruit the local Sunni population into supporting and fighting for the ISIS Jihadists.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-takeover-houthis/+&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

It was a very limited attack against some of their positions last night. Actually, if you watched the local news during the past few weeks you'd have known that Houthi group has kept advancing and gaining more ground, despite the repeated calls for political discussions.
Well, someone had to send a message and that's all what SA did.


Iran have shown unprecedented rudeness. Today we heard their foreign minister's statement that the airstrikes "won't be tolerated and would backfire on Saudi Arabia".
That's funny, how the hell could they talk on behalf the authentically-Arabic Yemen?

Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Bahrain, and now Yemen; looks like the Farsi empire is etching for another Qadisiyah. Unfortunately though, we were totally different kind back then.


The good news though, Iran is losing another one of the few remaining masks that covered it's face for the past decades.
That drama between Iran and Israel/US isn't kidding anyone anymore here in the region, as the real target of Iran became clear more than ever.

 

[Orignal Earl]

After the US killed those hostages that were about to be released in Yemen back in Dec, I would guess that laying low there would be a good idea