Not exactly stunning..but my experience with an Athlon XP 2400+ Mobile

[VisableAssassin]

not as impressive as ive seen...but here is my start.


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[screw3d]

That's pretty good to me :Q What are the temps?

 

[Megatomic]

That looks good to me Mike. :beer: What's it cooled with?

 

[Elcs]

2.5ghz isnt stunning?

High voltage there.... is it nessercary?

Mine feels stable at 2.3ghz at 1.75V and I cant afford to replace this rig for a good few years so I dont want it to go belly-up.

 

[JBT]

2.5Ghz with 2.0 Vcore does kinda suck =( hav you tried lowering the Vcore I would guess you have though hehe Sorry man.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

i need a 1.95v core for 2.4ghz. sucks....

edit: this is the best i can do without arctic silver 5,which is in the mail, but the noise is simply way too much. i'll stick to 2.4 for now.
bonk

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
That looks good to me Mike. :beer: What's it cooled with?

My Modified D-tek TC-4 Rev2 and the simple water stuffs...D-tek pro core with shroud 120mm panaflo M1a eheim 1250...nothing major
as for my temps right now my room is a warm right now so Im idleing at 100f (38c) underload when everything is like it should be I see 116f (46c). as far as having 2v running thru it...yeah it was neccessary the hting simply wouldnt run with out it...and if it toasts...oh well ill buy another

 

[myocardia]

I can't wait until my mobile 2600 and poor man's watercooling setup (Thermalright SLK-900a and 92mm Tornado) get here. Now if I only had a Prometia laying around.

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: myocardia
I can't wait until my mobile 2600 and poor man's watercooling setup (Thermalright SLK-900a and 92mm Tornado) get here. Now if I only had a Prometia laying around.

This chip will probably be going up for sale in a little while, along with the mobo as Im really thinking about doing an A64 setup...mmm..mmm...goood

 

[Soulkeeper]

yeah that's way too much voltage
i would try to get the vcore under 1.75v if you can

maybe try raising vdd, vdimm, an vagp a little and see if that helps with system stability


good luck

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
yeah that's way too much voltage
i would try to get the vcore under 1.75v if you can

maybe try raising vdd, vdimm, an vagp a little and see if that helps with system stability


good luck

vdimm is 2.8v...useing PC4000 ram so a higher vdim wont net me a thing.
Vagp is maxed...no difference, and chipset voltage is maxed as well.
There is no way I can get this thing under 1.75v at this speed....none.
and the voltage for me isnt all that bad.
the model 10 (barton) cored parts are rated at a max of 2.15v anything over that is bad news. Ive still got a first production run 2500+ that still running to this day @ 2.0v
Im not worried
If I toast it...well then its a key chain, but like I said this chip will probably only be with me for a few more days, payday is coming and a new A64 setup is looking...very nice

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: VisableAssassin

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
yeah that's way too much voltage
i would try to get the vcore under 1.75v if you can

maybe try raising vdd, vdimm, an vagp a little and see if that helps with system stability


good luck

vdimm is 2.8v...useing PC4000 ram so a higher vdim wont net me a thing.
Vagp is maxed...no difference, and chipset voltage is maxed as well.
There is no way I can get this thing under 1.75v at this speed....none.
and the voltage for me isnt all that bad.
the model 10 (barton) cored parts are rated at a max of 2.15v anything over that is bad news. Ive still got a first production run 2500+ that still running to this day @ 2.0v
Im not worried
If I toast it...well then its a key chain, but like I said this chip will probably only be with me for a few more days, payday is coming and a new A64 setup is looking...very nice

Yeah, but unfortunately you're gonna have to buy an FX-53 to be able to keep up with my OC'ed mobile 2600.

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: VisableAssassin

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
yeah that's way too much voltage
i would try to get the vcore under 1.75v if you can

maybe try raising vdd, vdimm, an vagp a little and see if that helps with system stability


good luck

vdimm is 2.8v...useing PC4000 ram so a higher vdim wont net me a thing.
Vagp is maxed...no difference, and chipset voltage is maxed as well.
There is no way I can get this thing under 1.75v at this speed....none.
and the voltage for me isnt all that bad.
the model 10 (barton) cored parts are rated at a max of 2.15v anything over that is bad news. Ive still got a first production run 2500+ that still running to this day @ 2.0v
Im not worried
If I toast it...well then its a key chain, but like I said this chip will probably only be with me for a few more days, payday is coming and a new A64 setup is looking...very nice

Yeah, but unfortunately you're gonna have to buy an FX-53 to be able to keep up with my OC'ed mobile 2600.

Im not really interested in keeping up with anything youve got my friend.
a FX-53 would be nice and all...but just costs too damn much...and besides...youw anna compair your 2600 to the FX-53 or any other A64 ont heir native ground?

 

[myocardia]

I don't need to, newbie, it's already been done for me: link to mobile Athlon OC'ed to 2.5ghz keeping up with an FX-53.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: myocardia
newbie

This accusation confuses and amuses me. Mike is far from a newbie and he's been around AT a lot longer than you. What's the new criteria for one being a newbie?

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: myocardia
newbie

This accusation confuses and amuses me. Mike is far from a newbie and he's been around AT a lot longer than you. What's the new criteria for one being a newbie?

Newbie= anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about, as proven by the link.

 

[Megatomic]

I think he was talking about Win64. I know I can't wait to see how things turn out once Win64 is a reality and there is software available that will take advantage of it.

 

[Jeff7181]

Come on guys, stop comparing sizes and put your bits and pieces away.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Come on guys, stop comparing sizes and put your bits and pieces away.

I saw you peeking at my bits and pieces Jeff. :heart:

 

[myocardia]

He may have been, but since he didn't mention 64-bit, which isn't a reality yet, and won't be for the next 12 months or so, his point was totally moot, anyway. Right now all we have is 32-bit, and in 32-bit, a mobile Barton at 2.5ghz matches the $850 FX-53 in everything except memory bandwidth (surprise, surprise), and media encoding, therefore if he's considering ditching his current system, so he can spend another $300 or more for a lower performing socket 754 mobo and chip, he's definitely uninformed.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: myocardia
newbie

This accusation confuses and amuses me. Mike is far from a newbie and he's been around AT a lot longer than you. What's the new criteria for one being a newbie?

Newbie= anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about, as proven by the link.

That would make you a n00b then since he clearly stated "native ground" meaning 64 bit apps. Relax and don't forget you're comparing an OCed chip to one thats not. A $270 A64 3200 oced to 2.6 ghz will mop the floor with that barton, even on not native ground.

 

[dqniel]

Judging by synthetic benchmarks is dumb most of the time...I don't see how you say it's keeping up by that link. The a64 is ahead of it in like every encoding and 3d test, at stock speeds. Just wait for the 939 boards and then it will be funny

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: myocardia
I don't need to, newbie, it's already been done for me: link to mobile Athlon OC'ed to 2.5ghz keeping up with an FX-53.

Jesus christ man touchy are we?
Ive said nothing to offend you in any way shape or form.
As for the newbie comment thats actually funny.
Your link while informative yes...doenst really phase me one bit...all youve shown is the 2500+ OC to 2.5 gets beat by a STOCK fx-53 (unless I can read graphs)...so next time post a review that shows the A64 getting stomped please man..
my mobile 2400 is allready at 2.5ghz so im happy where my socket A is, Im not complaining one bit..Im actually pretty happy with it...

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: myocardia
newbie

This accusation confuses and amuses me. Mike is far from a newbie and he's been around AT a lot longer than you. What's the new criteria for one being a newbie?

Newbie= anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about, as proven by the link.

and again your link didnt "prove" anything...yeah sure the OC barton is fast no doubt...it still wont handle in any way shape or form 64 bit code...and besides that..even if the FX-53 OCed to 2.5 or even 2.6 your barton would be slapped around like a red headed step child....so for my closeing on this post.

1. Relax and dont toss childish insults or name calling...especially since YOU havent been around either here of the Hard forum long enough to know me...Megatomic knows me pretty damned well.

2. If your going to try and shoot someone down post something that does just that...not post something that shows how an OCed chip can keep up within a slight percentage.

and finally

3. Read the entire post before you go calling noob....I said lets see the barton run against the A64 on its native ground.. I.E. 64bit apps....while yeah it may be 12 months before anything official is out MS was and still is (last i checked) allowing you to check out WinXP 64.
Now Im going back outside to work my my '86 HD Softtail

 

[myocardia]

If he wants something for encoding, an A64 isn't the chip to buy there, either. A non-OC'ed 3.0C will mop the floor, to use your expression, with any socket 754 chip, no matter how high you OC the A64. Plus, you're seem to be forgetting that this link is comparing a 2.5ghz Barton to the absolute best chip made by AMD, not to a $200 or $250 socket 754 chip. Oh, and what exactly do you have to say about the 2 benchmarks where the Barton beats the FX-53?

 

[Megatomic]

Just for the record, the FX isn't a Socket 754 chip, it's a Socket 940 chip.