"Not even one smidgen of corruption"

[theeedude]

104 vs 7. That seems pretty even to me.

If they had 104 conservative and 7 progressive groups applying for tax exempt status, then that's how many applications they reviewed.

 

[himkhan]

Was Bengazi too dead a horse to beat this day? I promise to never vote for Obama or a tea person candidate if this OP will take his nap and sleep this off.

 

[etrigan420]

I'm actually surprised that liberals aren't mad as hell about this given their level of outrage regarding a Christe's bridge closure abuse of power.

Of course, that could easily be phrased the other way and pointed back at conservatives...

 

[Moonbeam]

What was in that email. It looked to me like a legal ruling on an IRS case against a conservative group was upheld by the courts in favor of the IRS and the pertinent legal facts were made know via this email to IRS officials doing the kind of oversight involved.

Would this not be something like telling a police department the surveillance techniques they had used against a mosque looking for terrorists that had been challenged in court and found legal was cleared for further use?

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm actually surprised that liberals aren't mad as hell about this given their level of outrage regarding a Christie's bridge closure abuse of power.

Color me Boehner. I have lost trust in the conservative brain's capacity to do much of anything but deflect. I have never seen such a bunch of hate motivated malicious swine go after one man with such ruthless cunning and spite since asshole got us into Iraq but for not much more reason than that he is black. It's really long overdue that such scum be driven off the American scene. The great thing about it is that when you pack pigs in a pen, they begin to turn on themselves. Good luck with dinner. Maybe come 2016 the country will have a chance to vote for one of the Tea Party Insane especially now that the Oink of New Jersey swallowed the Port Authority.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Color me Boehner. I have lost trust in the conservative brain's capacity to do much of anything but deflect. I have never seen such a bunch of hate motivated malicious swine go after one man with such ruthless cunning and spite since asshole got us into Iraq but for not much more reason than that he is black. It's really long overdue that such scum be driven off the American scene. The great thing about it is that when you pack pigs in a pen, they begin to turn on themselves. Good luck with dinner. Maybe come 2016 the country will have a chance to vote for one of the Tea Party Insane especially now that the Oink of New Jersey swallowed the Port Authority.

Who's deflecting?

 

[Vic]

So anyway, back to the question. How does Obama know there is no corruption when the investigation is not over?

Your desperation stinks.

 

[Matt1970]

Color me Boehner. I have lost trust in the conservative brain's capacity to do much of anything but deflect. I have never seen such a bunch of hate motivated malicious swine go after one man with such ruthless cunning and spite since asshole got us into Iraq but for not much more reason than that he is black. It's really long overdue that such scum be driven off the American scene. The great thing about it is that when you pack pigs in a pen, they begin to turn on themselves. Good luck with dinner. Maybe come 2016 the country will have a chance to vote for one of the Tea Party Insane especially now that the Oink of New Jersey swallowed the Port Authority.

Self ownage.

 

[bshole]

It's actually liberals who have zero interest in being honest or truthful. Conservative groups were targeted much more frequently than progressive groups (104 vs. 7) with 100% of the progressive groups received approval vs 46% of conservative groups.

A USA Today analysis determined that over a 27-month period, not a single Tea Party tax-exempt application was given the green light, while “dozens” of liberal applicants were rubber-stamped.

Not even one smidgen of corruption my ass. Lerner took the 5th for good reason and having an Obama donor lead the "investigation" is just icing on the cake for liberals like you who value a special kind of honesty and truthfulness.

I think this is just more evidence of the corruption on the right side of the aisle. The reason more right wing groups are being investigated is because they are breaking the rules/laws much more frequently.

 

[Matt1970]

I think this is just more evidence of the corruption on the right side of the aisle. The reason more right wing groups are being investigated is because they are breaking the rules/laws much more frequently.

 

[Jaskalas]

Gotta give Obama credit, he succeeded in using the IRS as a political tool where Nixon failed. Not many Presidents could out-Nixon Nixon.

Nixon belonged to the wrong party. The media, sans Fox, is assisting Obama in this.

 

[Moonbeam]

Who's deflecting?

Would I know if I am? How would I know if it were too painful for my ego to face? Wouldn't I just deflect your question?

I believe that the Republican party as it is in America today is anti the American people and that the only way they continue to have any power is by lying to them via the money the rich raise and illegally distribute to them for the sake of the rich themselves. I believe that the Republican party is a brain cancer. To deflect, I would say that what the money the rich give to Republican causes is vastly more a danger to the nation than this IRS issue here. I can understand why a brainwashed brain might worry that law enforcement might seek them out the corruption that produced them. I can also see the possibility of the government becoming corrupt.

Does a child suspect adults of motivations he or she can't conceive? Where does suspicion come from. Does it not come from our past. And what if you don't remember what that is? What if you don't know what you feel. Would not a mind that had returned to its source via self understanding, a mind that had deprogrammed itself become a foundation for objective understanding?

I believe you have a problem with me constantly deflecting, reflecting back your attempts to reflect me. It tickles me and I like you for it, but I hope you know that in my opinion my self honesty and self examination of my internal condition lead to the destruction of everything that I treasured and believed. I destroyed all the things I believed that gave me emotional comfort with the result that I suffered nakedly. What is there left to deflect, I ask myself. I look out of empty eyes, seems to me.

 

[Moonbeam]

Self ownage.

So true, but sadly you don't seem to have the faintest idea what it means to really own yourself. You have as a substitute mountains of self pride. I am everything that is negative and that's why I can see what you won't see. I know you because I know me and what horrifies you I find rather funny. Your fears are behind me.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nixon belonged to the wrong party. The media, sans Fox, is assisting Obama in this.

That's quite a brain defect you have there.

 

[Pens1566]

Hmm. No reason at all that the IRS would be more likely to review tax exempt status of groups based on TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY .... none whatsoever.

 

[Matt1970]

So true, but sadly you don't seem to have the faintest idea what it means to really own yourself.

A good start would be having the ability to know when you are making a total ass of yourself.

 

[Bowfinger]

I feel that part of the issue is that the left is shielded so much from what is transpiring because their news sources go to such great lengths to not report anything detrimental to 'the cause'. How many knew about the Lois Lerner email that is evidently the reason she plead the fifth? She conspired to target Conservative groups.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...cretly-drafted-rules-targeting-conservatives/

The email is at the link.

The difference seems to be that "the left" can read whereas you and your propaganda masters cannot. There is literally nothing in the email that has anything whatsoever to do with targeting conservative groups. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Anyone with an ounce of honesty and at least sixth-grade reading skill should be able to see that.

The email is about a court ruling that supports testing the "Major Purpose" of political groups when evaluating their eligibility for preferred status, e.g., 501(c)(4) status to conceal their funding. There is nothing partisan about that at all. It simply holds that any group whose major purpose is engaging in "federal campaign activity" is to be treated like other campaign groups rather than like issue advocacy groups.

That's perfectly reasonable. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, treat it as a duck, even if they call themselves Families for Safe Playgrounds, Inc. (or whatever). The reason the right makes such a stink about it is because they had such a surge in obvious campaign groups dishonestly representing themselves as something else.

 

[Bowfinger]

A good start would be having the ability to know when you are making a total ass of yourself.

Damn, I lose more irony meters reading your posts. Poof!

 

[Bowfinger]

It's actually liberals who have zero interest in being honest or truthful. Conservative groups were targeted much more frequently than progressive groups (104 vs. 7) with 100% of the progressive groups received approval vs 46% of conservative groups.

That's factually untrue. There were liberal groups whose applications were not only delayed, but actually denied. They simply didn't have the word "progressive" in their name, so the USA Today "analysis" ignored them. That's a pretty superficial analysis.

A USA Today analysis determined that over a 27-month period, not a single Tea Party tax-exempt application was given the green light, while “dozens” of liberal applicants were rubber-stamped. ...

As others suggest, if the application pool was really that lopsided, where over 90% of applicants were conservative groups, it should be pretty obvious why they got more scrutiny.

 

[Vic]

Hmm. No reason at all that the IRS would be more likely to review tax exempt status of groups based on TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY .... none whatsoever.

Or that phony 501c's are commonly used to commit tax fraud and/or money laundering.

But really, what makes the outrage here so ridiculous is that none of the right wing organizations had their applications denied.

 

[BUnit1701]

That's factually untrue. There were liberal groups whose applications were not only delayed, but actually denied. They simply didn't have the word "progressive" in their name, so the USA Today "analysis" ignored them. That's a pretty superficial analysis.



As others suggest, if the application pool was really that lopsided, where over 90% of applicants were conservative groups, it should be pretty obvious why they got more scrutiny.

No, its really not. ALL applications should receive the same level of scrutiny, regardless of which political buzzwords they are organized around.

 

[BUnit1701]

Or that phony 501c's are commonly used to commit tax fraud and/or money laundering.

But really, what makes the outrage here so ridiculous is that none of the right wing organizations had their applications denied.

Maybe not denied, but delayed until after the 2012 election. I would argue that is significant.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That's factually untrue. There were liberal groups whose applications were not only delayed, but actually denied. They simply didn't have the word "progressive" in their name, so the USA Today "analysis" ignored them. That's a pretty superficial analysis.

Please link to a more robust analysis.

As others suggest, if the application pool was really that lopsided, where over 90% of applicants were conservative groups, it should be pretty obvious why they got more scrutiny.

The numbers in the table wasn't a reflection of all applications received...it showed those applications that were flagged for special review. The application pool was actually much larger than 111 as the IRS received about about 3,400 applications for this tax-exempt status in 2012. So it's not that the application pool was that lopsided...it was the targeting of conservative groups that was lopsided.

 

[Matt1970]

Damn, I lose more irony meters reading your posts. Poof!

I should be more like you right? Nothing could beat the ability to redefine words to my liking and then call others names for disagreeing, the ability to believe multiple conflicting explanations of an event and the ability to define a lie as poor information handling. Then have the ability after all that to comment on others making an ass out themselves.

 

[Vic]

Maybe not denied, but delayed until after the 2012 election. I would argue that is significant.

Were they delayed any longer than any similar application made at the same time?