not bad .. .. 15 inch flat lcd monitor for 459

NICKel

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REQUIRES VIDEO CARD WITH FLAT PANEL SUPPORT/20 PIN(ATI OR NUMBER NINE)------


What's up with that? OK how much more is that adapter going to co$t me?
 

hans007

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because its a digital flat panel.. The standard now is DVI not DFP , but DVI is backwards compatible. Adapter should cost around $20 if you have a DVI card (like a herc prophet , or a lot of the new gf2mxes)
 

Azumah

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Those things are purty, but damn if they ain't still extremely expensive. $460 for a 15"! No disrespect to the post, but it looks like it will be at least a few more years before these things come down to earth.
 

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yeah i picked up a used 15" fp for $300 and im loving it. My desk space is 10x smaller, it looks pimp.

I'm 2x happier than my previous sony 17" trintron monitor, which was damn awesome to begin with!


 

dougjnn

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Roadrunner -

<<yeah i picked up a used 15&quot; fp for $300 and im loving it. My desk space is 10x smaller, it looks pimp.>>

Spill man. Where did you find it? What's its native resolution? What's the brand? I've got a 20&quot; Trinitron, but I'm seriously considering a second monitor with an Inno2d Geforce2 MX twinview card. I might be able to figure out how to get a 2nd 17&quot; on my desk, but I think a 19&quot; would be a non starter.

Aside from looking cooler, how do you compare the output quality, sharpness of your 15&quot; flat to your 17&quot; CRT? My impression is that at 1024x768, they are usually abut equivalent. True?
 

dougjnn

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NICKel and hans007-

I know some of the versions of the Inno3d Geforce2 MX cards with twinview support digital direct to flat panels (rather than converting to analog only so that the flat panel can convert back to digital for its final output) as one of the second options on their Twin View output. (TV out is another option, tends to be a different card version.)

What I don't know is anything about this DVI / DFP standards business. Is this analog versus digital (good for the Inno3d prospective buyer) or two different digital flat panel standards (potential bad, requiring digging on my part).
 

dougjnn

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Ok, answering my own question, in part.

Here is the Inno3d GeForce2 MX dualie, with regular rgb and flat panel out. It's DVI out.

So this Gateway labeled jobie is the older DFP standard. Do you know hans007 where I can get one of the $20 converters you talked about?

Also, does conversion hurt quality any, or is just a connector type thing? Am I missing something in the DFP standard that is present in the DVI standard?
 

efobee

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wonder if it would work if I ripped off the plastic housing and mounted just the lcd panel on the wall...now THAT would be space saving... and pimp at the same time..
 

JWade

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$459 is ok price for them, but compgeeks has a used 15&quot; gateway (i believe it is a gateway) for $419. same type of connector also i believe. They are reasonable on their shipping and will do COD on phone orders as well.
 

Coki

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A recent review of a bunch of LCD monitors from PC WORLD Magazine said that the Digital and Analog connection were the same. There was no difference.

 

dougjnn

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JWade --

Have you SEEN the Gateway product picture? Ugliest monitor stand in creation. No wonder they go a bunch of returns to resell. Check out the link at the top of this thread.

That stand has got to go. 10 to 1, Gateway has done just that on what it's shipping now.
 

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If you are looking for an inexpensive DFP video card I see Compgeeks has one Here, a Savage 4 based Diamond for $99 plus shipping. This is not a good card for gamers but is perfectly satisfactory for normal use.
 

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good deal!

I had one of the $300 Proview-made 15&quot;, and it is actually quite slow. (RETURN back to OM in 3 days) 1024X768@ 60hz going to make my eye really painful when playing games though....

I am surprise that even w/ DVI connection, it only top out at 60hz.
 

JWade

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I checked them, the monitor for 459 is the same that the geeks has for 419. They are the same exact ones, except the geeks has it cheaper, $40 cheaper. I had one for a bit, but traded it, I went from my Sony 19&quot; to the 15&quot; flat panel, thought i would like the more room on my desk, it was ok for games, but not too much beets a Sony 19&quot;.
 

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microcenter - a small computer store chain on the east coast - has that apple (ok ok calm down) 21&quot; (or 22?) widescreen flat panel monitor on display. omg. it doesn't get better than that.
 

hans007

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http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?sparco_part_number=A279254

i'm not sure if that is the right converter, but the dvi standard is based on the dfp standard, dfp was a vesa standard. The difference is that dvi supports more than 1024x768 resolution, since it carries more bandwith. dvi is supposed to be backwards compatible. I'm not sure if that converter i put a link to is to use a dvi monitor on a dfp vid card, or for a dfp monitor on a dvi vid card though