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senseamp

senseamp

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Infohawk said:
This doesn't really have anything to do with this thread... Why don't you just name the right wingers you're thinking of so they can respond to you if they want to?
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Has everything to do with this thread. There is no need to call out names, these people know who they are, they just need to man up and admit they are wrong.
 
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senseamp said:
Has everything to do with this thread. There is no need to call out names, these people know who they are, they just need to man up and admit they are wrong.
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Ummm what does profiling have to do with this? Are you accusing me of being one of those people?
 
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Doppel said:
If so, touche. ADD kicking in and I cannot read the rest of the thread :'(
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Heh. I can't blame you. P&N is pretty much a waste of time anyway so I shouldn't act like you have to go back and read through all this BS. :p
 
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I am not doing damage control for a terrorist. Are you saying this party that he was once a member of are all terrorists?

I think you'd understand my motivation if you had read my responses to woolfe in this thread. For example he basically asked the same question you did at the end of your post and I already addressed it. Look I get it, you don't want to read the whole thread you just want to get your opinions out there more than anything else.
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I will read the thread before I respond again, however, my point was not just to "get my opinions out there".


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I just want to clarify that I am not saying that you are supporting the guy who did this, just that you are not being as harsh on him and the types of people who support him for the sake of making a point about how the west is morally superior to the middle east.
 
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Phokus said:
Lol, he seriously has a racist alt account?
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He has an alt account Baasha. InfoHawk is his white supremacist account and Baasha is his Indian Hindu nationalist account. You caught him posting under InfoHawk, but using his Baasha speech.
 
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RabidMongoose said:
He has an alt account Baasha. InfoHawk is his white supremacist account and Baasha is his Indian Hindu nationalist account. You caught him posting under InfoHawk, but using his Baasha speech.
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Interesting, i did not know that, and he hasn't denied your accusations so i'll assume this is legit.
 
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Phokus said:
Interesting, i did not know that, and he hasn't denied your accusations so i'll assume this is legit.
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He may try to deny it at some point, but usually he tries to avoid statements that expose his beliefs. One time I point blank asked him if he opposed the concept of white supremacy and he refused to do so, just kept dancing around it. He may do the same again, who knows.
 
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LumbergTech said:
I just want to clarify that I am not saying that you are supporting the guy who did this, just that you are not being as harsh on him and the types of people who support him for the sake of making a point about how the west is morally superior to the middle east.
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How am I not being harsh on him? What he did was obviously wrong and he deserves an execution. What more do you want me to say?

Types of people that support him? That's my point. Where are they? This party doesn't support him. No sizeable faction in the west supports him. Meanwhile, in the Muslim world, opinion polls show considerable support for terrorists and terrorism.
 
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her209 said:
Why did this need a new thread?
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Heaven forbid there is more than one topic on a major news story. This thread is the reaction to and lack approval of the event by westerners. The other thread was about the events themselves and has turned into something else.
 
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He has broad right wing support on his politics, just not his tactics, because they've become a political liability. Now they are trying to wash their hands of the hatred they incited. They poured gasoline on this nutcase's fire, but now they don't can't handle the heat. Well, too bad.
Between this and the News Corp thing, not a good month for right wingers in Europe.
 
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Why did this need a new thread?
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My assumption was that it was to run away from the apt critique that the condemnation of Islam (as recorded by many members of this forum) was in concert with the views of the killer.

...some disliked that discussion zeroing in upon common vile political and ethnic views being associated with such crimes.

Ironically, exactly the intended theme of this topic..... -- to dissassociate common xenophobic hatred of Islam with the actions of the killer. :thumbsdown:

This thread is a big fail.
 
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senseamp said:
He has broad right wing support on his politics, just not his tactics
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Right, there is no support for his actions which was my point.

By the way, do you think Islam contributes to Islamic extremism the way you seem to think that right-wing ideology contributed to this guy's actions? Seems like you would have to if you want to be consistent.
 
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Infohawk said:
Right, there is no support for his actions which was my point.

By the way, do you think Islam contributes to Islamic extremism the way you seem to think that right-wing ideology contributed to this guy's actions? Seems like you would have to if you want to be consistent.
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I absolutely think that Islam, especially Wahhabi, contributes to Islamic extremism the same way right-wing ideology contributed to this guy's action. So yes, I am consistent in this regard. Now how about you, do you think Islam doesn't contribute to Islamic extremism like you think right-wing ideology didn't contribute to this guy's actions? Seems like you have to if YOU want to be consistent.
 
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senseamp said:
I absolutely think that Islam, especially Wahhabi, contributes to Islamic extremism the same way right-wing ideology contributed to this guy's action. So yes, I am consistent in this regard. Now how about you, do you think Islam doesn't contribute to Islamic extremism like you think right-wing ideology didn't contribute to this guy's actions? Seems like you have to if YOU want to be consistent.
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I've said before I'm fine with chalking this up into the right-wing terrorism column...

But I'm guessing no polls are going to show widespread support for this guy and violence against civilians in the west anytime soon...
 
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senseamp said:
Meaning right-wing ideology contributed to this guy's actions, or you are dodging that obvious conclusion?
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The guy's ideology was a cause of his actions just like the religion of the 9/11 attackers was a cause of their actions.

I doubt we'll see a poll showing 56% of any European country likes this guy though...
 
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