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Norton Ghost 2001 and W2k

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Techwhore

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I have 3 partitions, all NTFS. When I attempt to use ghost, I can see both my hard drives but when I go to save an image somewhere I can't see any partitions, just my cdrw and floppy drive. I know that there are issues with ghost and NTFS. I ghosted my machine before, but that was when I had one of my partitions set as FAT 32.

My question is, is there a way to see my NTFS partitions in ghost? I've made a standard boot disk with no additional parameters. I have multiple machines and could do it over the network, but I don't have the required software for remote ghosting. Does anyone know the name of that software that I need, i forgot. There has to be a way to do this without converting a drive to FAT, thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions.
 
With that standard boot disk, you are technically running DOS. Remember, DOS can only access/write FAT and FAT32 at best. Ghost is adding the capability of *imaging* NTFS volumes but writing that image requires native support from the OS (DOS in this case).

-SUO
 
Ghost 2001 can't save to a NTFS partition. The limitation is the Ghost 2001 software!!

Ideally, you should have bought Drive Image Pro 4.0 or Ghost Enterprise. These 2 apps have no problem working with the NTFS.
 
Ghost enterprise is the software I couldn't remember before!

If I remember correctly that will allow me to ghost over networks right?

Just make a boot disk with ntfs support.

How? I didn't know that was possible...
 


<< If I remember correctly that will allow me to ghost over networks right? >>


Yes. It's the competitor of Drive Image Pro.


<< Just make a boot disk with ntfs support. >>


Like I mentioned earlier, the limitation is within Ghost 2001 and nothing more. While programs like NTFSDOS will allow you to view your NTFS partition from a DOS prompt, it will not help your problem with Ghost 2001.

FWIW: If you have a choice, I would suggest you use Drive Image Pro over the Symantec product. I have mentioned it in this forum before that Drive Image Pro 4.0 is about 40% to 50% faster. But then again I was comparing D.I.P to Ghost 2001.
 
The inability to write to a NTFS volume is NOT an limitation of Ghost. It most likely due to the fact that the host OS from which you are running Ghost (DOS) cannot natively write to NTFS (nor can it read NTFS). The only way Ghost is able to image NTFS (and other non-FAT filesystems like Linux's ext2 and BeOS's bfs) is because Ghost accesses the binary info only and not through the filesystem.

-SUO
 
Hey SUOrangeman... After trying to force Ghost 2001 to save to an NT File System though the NTFSDOS disk and other means, I decited to waste $25 and call the Symantec tech center. After not getting much help, I was finally put through a senior tech and his response was &quot;Ghost 2001 is strictly a consumer app and is purposely missing the code that would be required to save to an NTFS drive, this is why 6.5E exists. He later goes on saying it was really a marketing decision.&quot;

With Ghost 6.04 and earlier, you can store images on NTFS partitions on network drives provided you use NetBIOS to access the network drive. But it's really slow...

BTW: Ghost 2001 is version 6.5 (consumer), Ghost Enterprise is 6.5 (business), Ghost 6.0 (old version).

 
First of all, filesystems on the other end of a network connection are transparent to applications. Think of it like this. Who can you tell if this web page is running off of a Linux box or a Win2K server? You can't ... and it doesn't matter. The networking takes care of any transactions for you. Therefore, network-based arguements here are irrelevant.

Now, if you are using the NTFSDOS driver ***WITH WRITE CAPABILITIES*** (yes, the version you pay for) and you cannot image onto an NTFS volume, then I am wrong.

Now, if those other utilities can write to an NTFS volume, they either:

1. Are not running on a truly native version of DOS (without NTFS access capabilities)

OR

2. The managed to add write-to-NTFS to the program.

I've never seen those other apps in use, so I don't know.

Now, I believe that Ghost could create images of NTFS volumes many iterations ago. It just could not restore them to NTFS volumes (again, from native DOS).

-SUO
 
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